Dear spiker,

Re: It is telling that people won't volunteer their IQ...

I am surprised you don't know that it is considered bad manners to disclose one's IQ or to ask others about theirs.

Besides, the Slate's conversations have to do with averages not individuals.

Good day.

It is not bad manners if someone is talking about it first and putting such great stock into it. People talk about it like they even know what it means. Never taken one then what the hell does any score mean relative to your non-existant score, absolutely nothing. You end up not having any perspective.

This all along has been about intellectual curiousity on IQ and now you want to let people in an anonymous setting demure. Laughable. Given that they'll likely lie anyways. Even to themselves.

Good day. :-)

Re: putting such great stock into it [IQ]...

Science Magazine www.sciencemag Vol 318 page 1357 November 30, 2007

What the Scull Tells

…Robert the Bruce, 14th century king of Scots, died in Scotland in 1329 at age 55. A highly accurate cast of his scull…made when his tomb was discovered in 1819, now sits in anatomy department of the University of Edinburgh.

Studies have shown that brain, and therefore scull, have modest but significant correlation with IQ. …They compared his scull measurement with those of 48 Scotsmen who took an IQ-like reading test. The men’s score correlated well—at around 0.5—with brain imaging measurements of their intracranial space. Applying the same relationship to Bruce’s high-brow cranium, the researchers report in November issue of Intelligence that his IQ probably hovered around 128.

,,,The estimated IQ is in the same ballpark as those of other leaders and is corroborated by suggestions that Bruce spoke several languages and was a master of national and international politics.

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One of the most respected science magazines in the world publishes an article and uses such words as cranial measurement and IQ. They do it without any apology or explanation of what IQ means. Apparently, those reading the magazine understand the meaning behinds these words.

I clicked on your link. It led nowhere. Tried a little but thought it would be easier to just ask you to link again.

Dear spiker,

If you are asking about sciencemag link to the article, here is the search on sciencemag.org that shows the article. However, you might not be able to read the full article if you are not a subscriber.

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Thanks, no subscription.

I was trying dot com and not dot org.

Regardless. I read this kind of article all the time. I never put any real stock into them. They are patently ridiculous in the end. Ask the researchers(conjecturers) if they'd stake their lives on their claim of the man's IQ and they'd run for the hills for all the variable-variables of this pseudo-science. Popcorn science with no real value other than to propagate a myth that big headed people are likelier more intelligent as measured by IQ.

Who would understand IQ better and what it means? Someone who has taken the test at least once or someone who hasn't taken it at all.

Have you taken it?

Dear spiker,

Give it up. No matter how you slice it or dice it, big brain or small brain, IQ meaningful or meaningless, white is black and black is white--words are not going to change physical reality. But maybe, what you call "popcorn science" has managed to change your perception of physical reality and you indeed expect that people are "blank slates" and if you give them everything possible from before they are born, they will wind up equal.

From many of your postings, I understand that you live in the world of 1984:

• FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
• IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

spiker:

It is telling that people wont' volunteer their IQ and yet are willing to put so much stock into it when it comes to large racial groupings. Actually it is funny, very funny.

Well 1380 on the SAT (pre 1994) which apparently correlates to an iq between 142 to 145:

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I didn't prep for the test and the high school I attended was ranked very low in the state.

FWIW I scored an 11 on the DENSA test :

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Moses and the ark ... damn..