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Re: Where does the Constitution allow MANDATORY insurance?
by judy1

sure, you're health and fit right now, but what would you do if you got sick. Suppose you got cancer, would you seek treatment, and if so how would you pay for that treatment? I'm paying health insurance premiums, and the cost of those premiums are directly related to the billions of dollars health care providers have to write off because of deadbeats. If costs go up, my premiums go up. If you get sick and go banrkupt, it will cost me money.

do you pay car insurance? If you get caught without it, you pay a fine, or can be put in jail. has that requirement been found to be unconstiutional? I rest my case.

Re: you are just a fraud
by jazzguitarman

OK the law is on your side; You are allowed by law to be a deadbeat and NOT pay medical providers for treating you.

Re: Where does the Constitution allow MANDATORY insurance?
by CliffHanger
How about Article 1, Section 8....are you going to impose this on the uninsured as an excise tax? That's the only Article authority Congress has to impose penalties... WAIT...that can't be aimed at any particular party...oops....better look elsewhere.....lol
Re: these cons are phonies!
by jazzguitarman

I am healthy, fit, and don't want health insurance.

You said you didn't want health insurance. Are you now saying you have health insurance? So you have something you don't want? Man you are a bigger moron than I suspected.

Being responsible is paying one's bills!

Re: Where does the Constitution allow MANDATORY insurance?
by CliffHanger

do you pay car insurance? If you get caught without it, you pay a fine, or can be put in jail. has that requirement been found to be unconstiutional? I rest my case.

You better "rest your case" someplace else....If my vehicle isn't on the road I'm not required to insure it am I? Does a junkyard pay for auto insurance on the hundreds of wrecks they own? I'm in violation of your edict by breathing.....must I hide like Anne Frank so the health-police can't drag me off to an internment camp?

Re: these cons are phonies!
by CliffHanger

Do you know what a hypothetical is? And you claim to be a "millionaire"? lol

jazzguitarman:

I am healthy, fit, and don't want health insurance.

You said you didn't want health insurance. Are you now saying you have health insurance? So you have something you don't want? Man you are a bigger moron than I suspected.

Being responsible is paying one's bills!

Re: Where does the Constitution allow MANDATORY insurance?
by judy1
CliffHanger:

do you pay car insurance? If you get caught without it, you pay a fine, or can be put in jail. has that requirement been found to be unconstiutional? I rest my case.

You better "rest your case" someplace else....If my vehicle isn't on the road I'm not required to insure it am I? Does a junkyard pay for auto insurance on the hundreds of wrecks they own? I'm in violation of your edict by breathing.....must I hide like Anne Frank so the health-police can't drag me off to an internment camp?

okay, so if you die, we won't require you to carry insurance on your dead body. As long as you are living, you can incurr illness, unless you're telling me that you are immune to all sicknessness. If that's the case, maybe you ought to sell it and make a fortune.

Re: Where does the Constitution allow MANDATORY insurance?
by CliffHanger

Once again, this thread is about the legality of forced-enrollment in a Federal program....all the diversions you've tried only show you know of no such authority granted by the Constitution.

Re: Where does the Constitution allow MANDATORY insurance?
by judy1
what I'm saying is that there is nothing in the constitution that would prevent it. If there were, then the issue with mandatory car insurance would have gone down. It didn't. This is no different.
Re: Where does the Constitution allow MANDATORY insurance?
by judy1

it would be like me asking where in the constitution does it allow the republican party to exist.

are you really that stupid?

Re: these cons are phonies!
by jazzguitarman

So the 'I' in your hypothetical question should of been a 'one'. As in 'One is healthy, fit and doesn't want health insurance'.

That person is still a deadbeat if they require medical services they cannot afford to pay.

Glad to see you are not a deadbeat and that you have health insurance, but you appear to still believe society should pay for the healthcare of others by NOT mandating insurance.

I'm a fiscal con \ moderate and I do NOT wish for society to pay for others. Thus unless hospitals are allowed to NOT provide medical care, insurance must be mandated. And yes, I'm a millionaire. I fail to see how anyone that is 40 that earned a good wage during the Clintion years isn't worth a million or two. Really all one had to do was get some tech stock since the returns were at least 20 to 1 before the fall.

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