in other words

Govermants are not some kind of independent Darth Vaderish evil entities existing on it's own for it's own sake.

They exist to support the political/economical/ideologic­al systems adapted in different countries, nations.

Well U, you keep making assertions like: "it's badly written", "nobody can tell me what it means in a convincing manner"… just say the word and I’ll provide the link again.

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1 SEC. 1728. ASSURING ADEQUATE PAYMENT LEVELS FOR

2 SERVICES.

3 (a) IN GENERAL.—Title XIX of the Social Security

4 Act is amended by inserting after section 1925 the fol5

lowing new section:

6 ‘‘ASSURING ADEQUATE PAYMENT LEVELS FOR SERVICES

…

I must admit I much prefer poetry, and I truly have not had enough bill reading experience to make a valid comparison. I also would observe that it doesn’t seem much different than the small print stuff on the back of every contract I have seen, maybe even a little bit better. NPR is giving away a free listen to Norah Jones new album; I have heard it twice; and I’ve enjoyed a trip down memory lane with the Beatles. By hook or by crook I’ll complete this bill and meanwhile here’s some poetry for you:

Samuel Sewall

By Anthony Hecht

Samuel Sewall, in a world of wigs,

Flouted opinion in his personal hair;

For foppery he gave not any figs,

But in his right and honor took the air.

Thus in his naked style, though well attired,

He went forth in the city, or paid court

To Madam Winthrop, whom he much admired,

Most godly, but yet liberal with the port.

And all the town admired for two full years

His excellent address, his gifts of fruit,

Her gracious ways and delicate white ears,

And held the course of nature absolute.

But yet she bade him suffer a peruke,

"That One be not distinguished from the All";

Delivered of herself this stern rebuke

Framed in the resonant language of St. Paul.

"Madam," he answered her, "I have a Friend

Furnishes me with hair out of His strength,

And He requires only I attend

Unto His charity and to its length."

And all the town was witness to his trust:

On Monday he walked out with the Widow Gibbs,

A pious lady of charm and notable bust,

Whose heart beat tolerably beneath her ribs.

On Saturday he wrote proposing marriage,

And closed, imploring that she be not cruel,

"Your favorable answer will oblige,

Madam, your humble servant, Samuel Sewall."

If citizens in a democracy are strongly opposed to a measure that affects them, their representatives should heed their opinions.

Which is not what Pelosi is doing. She is attempting to strong-arm votes from representatives. Over 60 of whom represent districts opposed to the plan.

And that is not really democracy.

Of course, wigs were necessary. They didn't bathe often. If you wanted to avoid lice, you had to shave your head. Which was not a fashionable look.

Charles II managed to look pretty cool in a wig.

what measures people are opposed to?

(Cut-n-paste, sorry)

With House Democrats racing to pass their 2,000-plus page health care reform bill this weekend, a new CNN/Opinion Research poll shows that an overwhelming majority of those surveyed -- 72 percent -- want Congress either to make major changes, start over from scratch, or simply stop working on health care legislation. Just 26 percent want Congress to pass the current health care proposal as is, or with minor changes.

This was the question asked by the CNN/Opinion Research pollsters:

As you may know, several health care bills have been passed by committees in the U.S. House and Senate and they can be brought before Congress for debate and a final vote at any time. Which of the following do you think Congress should do:

** Continue working on those bills this fall and make relatively minor changes
before passing final legislation.

** Continue working on those bills this fall but pass final legislation only if major changes are made.

** Start work on entirely new bills that would not be ready until some time next year.

** Stop working on any bills that would change the country's health care system.

The results: 26 percent want the bills passed with relatively minor changes; 33 percent want the bills passed but only with major changes; 24 percent want Congress to start work on entirely new bills; and 15 percent want Congress to stop work altogether. Just one percent have no opinion.

You asserted an opinion based on air, I asserted an opinion based on research,

You insisted the outcome, and then backed off with a weak wrist "We'll see"

Your assessment (based on air hot or otherwise) was wrong, now,,, discard the short pants, put on some big boy pants, and admit your error.

Regards

Pace,

PS, insults are a sure sign of defeat. your attempts at humor are like your belly crawling, pathetic.

Have a great day,

Regards again!

Pace

Hope all is well

Regards

Pace

struggling, hon

tough times for my type of business

It’s hard to argue with this section of the bill:

‘‘(C) DESCRIPTION OF CHILDREN NOT

20 SUBJECT TO WAITING PERIOD.—For purposes

21 of this paragraph, a child described in this sub22

paragraph is a child who, on the date an appli23

cation is submitted for such child for child

24 health assistance under this title, meets any of

25 the following requirements:

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1 ‘‘(i) INFANTS AND TODDLERS.—The

2 child is under two years of age.

3 ‘‘(ii) LOSS OF GROUP HEALTH PLAN

4 COVERAGE.—The child previously had pri5

vate health insurance coverage through a

6 group health plan or health insurance cov7

erage offered through an employer and lost

8 such coverage due to—

9 ‘‘(I) termination of an individ10

ual’s employment;

11 ‘‘(II) a reduction in hours that

12 an individual works for an employer;

13 ‘‘(III) elimination of an individ14

ual’s retiree health benefits; or

15 ‘‘(IV) termination of an individ16

ual’s group health plan or health in17

surance coverage offered through an

18 employer.

19 ‘‘(iii) UNAFFORDABLE PRIVATE COV20

ERAGE.—

21 ‘‘(I) IN GENERAL.—The family of

22 the child demonstrates that the cost

23 of health insurance coverage (includ24

ing the cost of premiums, co-pay25

ments, deductibles, and other cost

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1 sharing) for such family exceeds 10

2 percent of the income of such family.

3 ‘‘(II) DETERMINATION OF FAM4

ILY INCOME.—For purposes of sub5

clause (I), family income shall be de6

termined in the same manner speci7

fied by the State for purposes of de8

termining a child’s eligibility for child

9 health assistance under this title.’’.

This is real chutzpah.

PS, insults are a sure sign of defeat. your attempts at humor are like your belly crawling, pathetic.

Intentionally ironic again?

I like the part that calls for "National Fluffy Bunny Day" myself.

Not that sold on the rest of it.

killing one's own parents and then throwing yourself on the mercy of the court because you are an orphan..

Describes you down to the atomic level pup.

Have a great day

Regards

Pace

Sigh. Good to see your maturity on full display here.

The only thing worse than "letting these people take over one sixth of the economy" would be letting those presently in control of it remain so.