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Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by white light
Yeah but the 'natives' have a religion. If we are defining religion as Islam or Christianity even Judaism or Zoro.... then we are talking of a forced religion, if we are talking of all others then that is different and if we are encompassing them all, we have a prob :) Please be more specific in your definitions :).( teasing )
Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by TruettCollins
What I have seen is that what you call ""strong" (emotionally/philosophically/i­ntellectually) people" typicaly rely on booze, pills, drugs, psychiatrist, psychologist , and various other “counselors, etc…to get through the day…..
Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by TruettCollins
If you understood anything about the tenet's of Christanity you would realize that all men are week in the ways of righteousness when they are without God.....
Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by white light
Explain to me please, Truett, how anyone can be without God if God is within and without all thing ?
Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by happyatheist
I don't see how animism indicates that we are all religious.
Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by happyatheist

Do weak people typically need religion?

I would consider my mother, in many ways, one of the weakest people I know - introverted, frightened, unable/unwilling to do those things she should do to make a better life for herself. But she is not typically religious (beleives in something, not necessarily a god) and certainly doesn't call on any god to get her through hard times. Her mother, my grandmother, was probably one of the strongest people I have known - able to take on challenges and disappointments and turn them to her advantage for the betterment of her family and community. She was probably the most properly religious person in my family (ie. believed in god and lived as if she did), but, again, I don't recall that she ever called on god to help her out of any jam, nor attributed her strength and good fortune solely to god - she worked hard, that's how she got where she did and, in her mind, that's what god expected.

So, no, it isn't any more true than saying weak people need drugs, or alcohol or dominance. They don't. Some people use those things, and religion also, but not because they neccessarily need to.

Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by happyatheist
They do not. You're almost as big an idiot as NS.
Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by konark_girl
Nicely put, happy.
Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by konark_girl

Reptilicus:
Nanotech:

Weak people like Martin Luther King Jr.?

Isn't that paradoxical, Nano? A basic tenet of Christianity is that humans are "weak, prone to temptation, and imperfect"...so how do you then turn around and say "Christians (like King) are strong and righteous"?

But its a valid point Nano raised, Rep. If you go by the tent that "only weak people need religion" and hence by extension "therefore, all religious people are weak", then you'd have to figure out how to fit folks like King and Gandhi or for that matter Mukhtaran Bibi of Pakistan into that equation.


Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by Primate

And let's not neglect the Sikhs!!

Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by TruettCollins

I am only speaking of experence......and having refered hundreds to counslers......having helped hundreds get off the booze, pills, and drugs......but then you prove to be nothing more than an adolsesent from your post so you wouldn't know anything about experence......

Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by TruettCollins
He is not with all things since he can not be evil.......and not inside man untill man accepts him......
Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by NightSwimmer

If evil did not come forth from the Creator, then from whence did it come? Did God not create everything, or is there another, equal but opposite, Creator?

It appears to me that your assertion that God can not be evil creates significant problems for the theory of monotheism. But what do I know? I am merely an idiot...

;-)

Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by Reptilicus

TruettCollins:
What I have seen is that what you call ""strong" (emotionally/philosophically/i­ntellectually) people" typicaly rely on booze, pills, drugs, psychiatrist, psychologist , and various other “counselors, etc…to get through the day…..

Of course YOU "see" it that way, Truett. If you saw anything different it would shatter your world-view, wouldn't it?

Re: "Religion is for the weak".....a truism, isn't it?
by Reptilicus
NightSwimmer:

If evil did not come forth from the Creator, then from whence did it come? Did God not create everything, or is there another, equal but opposite, Creator?

It appears to me that your assertion that God can not be evil creates significant problems for the theory of monotheism. But what do I know? I am merely an idiot...

;-)

Another paradox (for another thread...LOL)....if Truett blames Man for the creation of evil, then it means she grants that Man CAN "create something" (if negative) that God CANNOT create, ergo rendering on the "power to create evil" Mankind more powerful than God.

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