I can understand and sympathize with those who are still Christian, the loss , for the moment anyway, of meaningful, deep theological argument that there once was on FB. There still was, even in my short time here. With in the 'belief' that is. Outside Christianity there still is now, sometimes :-)

But as you say people are busy aaaannd, it is summer time, God has given us warmth away from the central heating and the computer :-)

Hey JV,

Agreed, it was more fun with b'liever cleaver, from the protestant perspective, because then we had b'liever, truett, nano, and dawggy, a fair spectrum of protestant belief. The mix is a little skewed right now for optimum discussion. What the heck happened to Nano? Did I miss that day? It'd be great if we had mainline protestants, orthodox Jews, Muslims, etc., who posted regularly.

I enjoy it the most when we get to see how different backgrounds and beliefs think and feel about different issues, and see how our fellow citizens think about things. Really, the most you can expect out of a board like this is the chance to share your perspective, maybe correct some misconceptions - - I think the total number of converts in either direction based on Fray comments/arguments is zero.

As far as other Catholic posters go, when there are RCC articles posted, we always seem to get a few who appear to be practicing and knowledgable about their faith - - RalphS, waltz-n-capsize, and there were a few more after the last article about C. West - - but they never seem to stick around. How much time to devote is certainly a prudential judgment.

All in all, I do think it is a great group in many ways.

We have lost a lot of people...I fear the worst for Nano, he wasn't in the best of shape I don't think. I want to hope he's alright, but it's hard sometimes. I do wish he would make an appearance and just let us know he's alive if he is.

But fort's been gone for a while, and b'liever/moG, and JCG doesn't stop by much anymore and we lost our two muslims a while back, and quite frankly we haven't gotten any new blood of any religious persuasion for a long time. Maybe it's the economy - when times get tough, people go to church, therefore they can't be idly whiling away the time here. Oh, well, such is life.

And with that, I'll say goodbye for a few days. I have company coming - my oldest (longest friendship 26 years) surviving friend - and we're going to be doing the NC tourist and leisure thing for the next 4 days, starting here. (Hey, his choice, not mine!)

http://www.biltmore.com/

It might end up here...

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In which case I'll be absent for more than 4 days because I'm a little physically and coordination challenged and I'll undoubtedly break something or drown or whatever...

Happy 4th of July everyone, even you un-Americans. ;)

Enjoy yourself, and come back to us, Hap. :)

Have fun haps and very happy 4th of July to you and all xxxxxx