lubbesuh:

Why have a pretentious flag mending event then if the whole idea of protecting this symbol is jst a hoary old custom? This is what happens when Liberals attempt to use conservative symbolism for their own messages. It is like when people were wearing t shirts saying that Jesus was a community organizer. Who do you see as your intended audience and can you understand how ridiculous you may appear to them?

Sorry, we forgot patriotism was an anecdotal Republican thing.

Could you answer the earlier question? Why would you go to the trouble of staging this pretentious giant flag mending event if you think the flag is not a symbol worthy of respecting?

There's 2 easy reasons why liberals would stage something contradictory:

1. It works. It's stupid, it makes no logical sense, but it gets votes. The conservatives have used stuff for years that makes no sense, but gets votes. Skill at hugging a baby or a flight suit photo op does not make a better president, but it inspires a gut reaction. It's a natural part of election season.

2. Irony. Most conservatives seem to lack skill at detecting this, but it's some great humor.

You are saying the flag mending event was meant ironically. Was it a big joke on those stupid flag lovers? Oh, I get it, there was several levels of meaning and for those who were stupid enough to take it on its face vale, then all the better and you can get their moron vote. Then there are those who get the irony and will understand that it is all a joke at expense of the morons who really believe in the flag, and then you can get the asshole vote as well. What is really funny is the irony of those who are actually going to vote in this election for a guy who does not believe in the principles of Democracy, as is outlined in the treatise of Saul Alinsky, Obama's intellectual mentor, and seen in action throughout Obama's political career.

Think before typing next time. The picture wasn't up when I saw the post, and the author herself writes of people "merrily trampling" and "dancing" on the flag. Of course that wasn't the purpose of the event. I never said that. I was simply rolling my eyes at her apparent obliviousness to the irony of feeling patriotic while watching others walking on the flag.

Thanks for trying to insult my intelligence, though. That was funny.

Sigh...See, there's a failed detection there. 'Jesus was a community organizer' is more a play on the GoP for belittling community organizers than just trying to stir up more liberal votes for Obama.

I consider the flag mending thing as 1. I'm sure plenty of more patriotic posters of both parties will disagree with me, but that's the type of fluff I consider totally useless for determining who'd be a better candidate, but is undeniably useful for attracting undecided voters.

I really hope you're just trying to be irritating rather than be dumb enough to think the purpose of an event was to ironically pretend to mend a flag while desecrating it.

Anyone who really cares about what Jesus was or is would never call him a community organizer.

As a retired veteran I must say, take a chill pill. Men and women spilled their blood for that flag. The least of its insults are for little American children to play on it.

When you value a country's flag more highly than its citizens then it is time to move to Poland. But since I am of Polish descent, please, move to Slovakia.

What truly amazes me is how many are so willing to besmirch others over their flag but didn't give a damn enough about it to join the military and defend it.

Let's put this in perspective. Flesh and blood American children. A piece of cloth. You know, most flags are made in China by women who drag the material across the floor and pick their noses. Do you think the minute they cross into American territory they become imbued with some sanctity?

Save your sanctity for your soldi. It's what you truly worship and respect. If you didn't, you would think paying your damn taxes was patriotic instead of hiding behind a flag and whining about it.

I was remembering how, after 9/11 here in NYC, people would go to the memorial services wrapped in American flags. It didn't seem disrespectful, nor did it seem as if people were unaware of the symbolism of the flag. If anything, I would argue they were more attuned to it--they wanted to incorporate that symbol into their own grieving process. I know there is an etiquette to handling the flag (as there is for most symbols), but that does not mean that anyone who fails to adhere to it lacks respect. There is merchandise of every variety with the flag on it, from sweaters to baby quilts and the pins people wear on their lapels. Seems to me they want to think of it as belonging to them. Isn't that a good thing?

Are you daft or just stupid? Some dumbass posts his OPINION about the purpose of this event and suddenly you are making it fact?

Oh I get it. Die hard conservative will believe anything any electrons say about liberals.

The principles of Democracy are outlined in the Constitution. God forbid anyone try to community organize to help themselves. Sounds so <shiver> socialist....

First, flag burning/trampling is INTENT. If you burn a flag because it's no longer servicible, that's proper, not disrespect. If you jump up and down on it shouting "Dirka Dirka", that IS disrespect.

The children therefore were NOT being disrespectful because they didn't mean to be.

I would have kept my own kids off though, as I would find it disrespectful to the flag - there's plenty of grass in the park. I wouldn't go ape over it, but find it unseemly.

Not sure what you are responding to in my post. I agree...and disagree.

Children are do not intend to be disrespectful. However, having served UNDER the flag and having served the Constitution, I will place flesh and blood over rayon any day.

I've seen Olympic volleyball players with the flag pasted on their asses. I've seen flag jogging shorts, flag headbands, you name it. I think children playing in the lush folds of Old Glory is beautiful. And respectful.

lubbesuh:

Why have a pretentious flag mending event then if the whole idea of protecting this symbol is jst a hoary old custom? This is what happens when Liberals attempt to use conservative symbolism for their own messages.

Since when is the flag a 'conservative symbol'? We liberals can use the flag too. We use the flag on our own terms, not on the conservatives' bullshit terms. As to the flag mending- I think it's a powerful symbol. our country has been hijacked and ruined by the right wing extremists over the last 8 years. It's time we citizens get together and try to patch this country back together the best way we know how. Those who want to sew stars on the flag can sew stars on the flag. Those who want to dance on the flag can dance on the flag. Those who want to kiss the flag, or like the author's little girl, play 'ghost' with the flag, can do so. It's all different ways of embracing the flag. It's different than how conservatives who treat the flag- but so what? It's not just their flag It's our flag too.

lubbesuh:

It is like when people were wearing t shirts saying that Jesus was a community organizer. Who do you see as your intended audience and can you understand how ridiculous you may appear to them?

Hahaha- what's ridiculous is conservatives who think they have the trademark on Jesus and God. The truth is conservatives christians do not follow Jesus' teachings. They follow Paul's fascist teachings. Jesus preached against property.. Jesus preached against judging other people. Jesus preach against violence, against vengence. Jesus told his followers to give away all their belongings to the poor. Jesus is a liberal on all these positions. If anyone should be embarassed about referring to Jesus, it's the conservatives and the evengelicals.

I think the irony here is that the same people who can't stand to see an American flag desecrated probably don't understand why Muslims could get pissed off at a drawing of Mohammed with a bomb for a turban.