A lady out at work had a good observation on post partum depression. When I asked her if she missed carrying the child, she said hell no. It was a relief to her not to be pregnant.

That was 15-1/2 years ago, and now she faces a new set of problems. The kid wants to learn how to drive, and she said that was almost as depressing as being pregnant was (very nice lady, but totally a booger when she was expecting).

Problems never go away. They merely assume a new form.

Rob we should start our own driving school. You know people are up in arms over all the death in Iraq, but how many people are killed in car accidents due to alchol, teenage drivers, shitty drivers, etc?

Then you throw in the black KKK and their endless list of confirmed kills.

Makes Iraq look like "Don't tase me bro".

Okay I have to go study. One more exam, and I get to see my supplier too.

If successful, I'll think of you when I blaze up.

As for the driving school, I'm an old married man with frayed nerves. Besides, teaching my daughter how to drive cured me of that shit. Her mother had to complete the lessons.

Hell, a lot of these kids in the 'hood might consider Iraq to be a vacation.

Snort a line for me.

Women are ok. Well, sometimes anyway. Best not to marry them though.

Hard rock and good dope still make the world go round.

Tsu, you are so full of it. What about values and structure in your words and thoughts?

You know I could put my head under water and talk with bubbling-gurgling language and Rob would probably understand my meaning.

I could talk at one constant rythm at one constant pitch at one constant volume, right into your ear, you still won't hear, you still won't hear. FNM

You seemed to not understand what masterbation is.

What about values?

What was your point?

What is the black KKK?

All I know Unebug is we live in a world of shit. We have Barack Obama telling a bunch of high fallutin donors in S.F that small town peckerwoods cling to God and Guns when the tough get goin.

So what in the dog fuck is the black KKK doing? Whether in good times or bad they cling to their guns and have killed probably a quarter million African Americans over the last 30 years.

Of course they are not just doing this for ideology or sport.

I'm sure some of it was personal, but for the most part it was business, because why?

Not all, but how does much of the black community make a living? How can you explain in some neighborhoods an 80% unemployment rate?

Nobody is knocking drug dealers about clinging to guns or asking that they unilaterally disarm.

But white Peckerwoods in shitty little towns you've never heard of?

Great dinner consversation, let me tell ya.

Maybe in Vermont.

>>Nobody is knocking drug dealers about clinging to guns or asking that they unilaterally disarm.

But white Peckerwoods in shitty little towns you've never heard of?<<

That's a pretty big distortion of what is actually occurring, don't ya think? The reason gun control is such an issue in this country is because of crime that plagues the black community in particular. The crime surrounding poverty and drugs. They are hardly given a free pass to own guns, it is just too big a problem to deal with effectively with the resources we have, so it's not working. That people in shitty little towns are being affected is just a by-product of a shaky solution to a big problem. But let's not forget this really isn't a black or white issue. There are plenty of people with illegal handguns in the white community and plenty of legitimite gun owners in the black community. This is not a race thing.

Not only that but you are a white guy in a 'shitty little town.' When's the last time someone knocked on your door and confiscated your guns? I don't see the problem.

Tsuku, you're on your own here.

Rob is throwing in the towel.

<<<The reason gun control is such an issue in this country is because of crime that plagues the black community in particular. >>>

It's real simple, you want to cut much of the crime legalize drugs. Then you would have another serious problem, where are all the brothas going to find legitimate work?

I guess there is always prostitution.

There is a dissproportionate amount of the black population making a living off of drugs.

If those guys need illegal guns, they usually have no problem. Nor do they have a problem wasting someone.

White guys, unless you have the connections and money, it's a much harder to come up with such weapons. They are also more likely to go out of their way to kill people unless they have just lost it.

As for people collecting guns, no not yet.

But what if you have Obama in office and a solid majority in Congress to push through whatever they please?

You know I'd like to see them try it, I'd like to see the military just come out and occupy the capitol and take the whole pack of them into custody.

That would be the day. Nancy Pelosi's severed hands being nailed to the door to the Senate House?

Priceless.

I meant to say white people are less likely to matter of factly kill people.

Where in black culture, smoking someone's ass seems to be second nature.

Tsuku, if the Constitution were to be suspended and represenative government was to be done away with, who would you like to see leading the country?

I don't really hate George Bush, but neither would I care to see him as leader for life. Despite his negative image and his pandering to big business, Bush does have some positives. But far too many negatives outweigh the positives

To say nothing of Hillary, Obama, or McCain.

I agree that democracy in this nation has turned into a travesty. WE, THE PEOPLE, have reduced to sheep to be sheared and eventually led to the slaughter.

Having been raised in a military family, the thought of a military takeover of the nation is not altogether repellant to me, but it would seem that the military leadership in this nation has been reduced to polityical lackeys and stooges.

Could such people efffectively govern the nation? There are no Pattons or MacArthurs within their ranks any more. These two individuals could effectively govern with fairness and compassion, as both demonstrated at war's end in Europe at the end of that unfortunate conflict. Patton embarassed Eisenhower by having Bavaria's civil systems and services back on line well before any other military district in Europe. And if memory serves, he died in December of 1945, which makes his accomplishments as as a peacekeeper all the more remarkable.

As for what MacArthur did in Japan, nothing short of a miracle. One of the greatest feats of social engineering in the history of man.

But where are such individuals when you need them? I see no such governing potential among the miltary's leadership ranks any longer.

As far as a civil takeover, virtually impossible without the support of the military, and such an action would cause rebellion with the ranks of the military itself.

Hillary or Obama with a Democratically controlled Congress would essentially bring about a defacto dictatorship. We would not be one in name, but we would never the less become one.

McCain too weak and inefectual to provide the leadership he once could have. Age definitely a factor here. He is not the man he once was.

The only other option I see is rebellion. Too many sheep though to pull one off.

That being said though, if you wish to foment one, count me in...

Change is needed, but I see no American Caesers waiting in the wings to bring that change about. That is unless Brother George has more on the ball upstairs than I gave him credit for. But he's gonna have to give up his fundamentalist views and take a little initiative with big business to keep thir greedy corporate asses in line if he wants my support.

The boy did have some potential. A pity he never lived up to it though.

I seriously like your views on separation. Seceesion is a popular theme among Southern boys anyway. Especially if we get the Democrats back in total control of the government. Something's gonna have to give under such a scenario.

I totally agree with you on one point. As my father used to be fond of saying, "We're all up Shit Creek without a paddle."

Which really should make Unebug happy, as she has plenty of fertilizer for her roses.

Not put much thought into that one. I'll have to get back with you on that.

The rose idea is right. About that masturation comment..... humor has not changed in a hundred years ...well almost. Of course I could have written something about being raised a lady in the south but the silence really worked. Now I have no idea what a peckerwood is;;? penis??? . I worry about the violence and anger that I feel on this Fray. In China during Mao's time hoards of young folks went around killing . Should I fear . ??? I worked hard during my life day after day; I did not waste my energy on drugs . The money in the bank can evaporate by the corruption and stupidity of our economy. 6 sharks ready to turn on my economic security according to Democracy Now yesterday. Bad Money by Kevin Philip. 1. financial economy instead of manufacturing. 2. Staggering debt, not just National Debt of 9 Trillion..it is really like $57 ? trillion all told, 3 . Collapsing House prices 4. global commodity inflation 5. lousy economic statistics over the last 30 years both parties, no one from another country would feel confident to invest in us. 6. Oil prices since Bush started his war have quadrupled. An adviser for Obama said something about "cooked books " some time ago. We cannot have the same.