This article must have been produced by or for someone who profits from the dairy market. There are over nine million cows in the U.S. forced to produce unnatural amounts of milk for the dairy industry. They are considered unproductive after age two and sent to a gruesome, terrifying and painful slaughter by age 4. What kind of an impact does that have on the environment? The dairy cows are pumped full of drugs so they produce unnatural levels of milk. This causes infections and diseases which usually go untreated. That is probably the reason milk contains such unsafe levels of blood and pus which our government also covers up so that it doesn’t interfere with profits. Google “life of a dairy cow” and see for yourself.

Cows are kind, loyal and loving creatures and I don’t believe they were put on this earth for man to torture so our government can make a profit.

Organic milk is now available at the humblest of corner stores. Go look. It tastes better, it keeps longer, and it contains no antibiotics, growth horomones or other nasties.

I've raised cattle, both for milking and for the pot. They are actually better natured than horses and smarter than I lot of people I've met....

"This article must have been produced by or for someone who profits from the dairy market."

And you must be a shill sent by PETA or some other radical animal rights group. The posts always sound the same, no matter where they are posted.

"There are over nine million cows in the U.S. forced to produce unnatural amounts of milk for the dairy industry."
Cattle produce more milk than they did fifty years ago. That much is true. However, it's because the genetics have improved. They are able to produce more milk because they are much more physically able to do so.

"They are considered unproductive after age two..."

At the very earliest, cows start producing milk at 2 years of age. How could they be considered unproductive after two when they've only just started milking? Typically, cows give more milk in subsequent lactations than they do in their first. But I wouldn't expect someone like you to know that.

"...and sent to a gruesome, terrifying and painful slaughter by age 4. "

I'd like you to meet Jackie, one of my family's favorite Holstein cows. If you'd like, you can send her a belated birthday card in honor of her 15th birthday. She's still going strong, producing unnatural large amounts of milk. We also have at least 10 other cows over the age of 8. While 15 is extraordinarily old for a cow, it's complete garbage that all dairy farmers toss their cows out at such an early age. Unfortunately, there are some who do, but don't be under the impression that everyone does it. We love our animals. We depend on them and they depend on us.

"The dairy cows are pumped full of drugs so they produce unnatural levels of milk."

First of all, rBST is on its way out. Almost all fluid milk on the shelves is now free of milk from cows treated with rBST. My family has never used it. However, people also forget that rBST has never been proven to be a health hazard. Ever.

"This causes infections and diseases which usually go untreated."

The only dairy farmers who don't treat their cows when they are sick are organic dairy farmers. Score one for ethics of organic farming, huh? And before someone starts complaining about antibiotics in the milk supply, milk from treated cows is thrown out until it is out of their system. Milk is tested for drug residues many, many times before it ever reaches your glass.

"That is probably the reason milk contains such unsafe levels of blood and pus which our government also covers up so that it doesn’t interfere with profits. "

Gotta love conspiracy theorists, huh?

"Google “life of a dairy cow” and see for yourself."

Why do people think they can become an expert in something just by browsing the internet?

"Cows are kind, loyal and loving creatures..."

Yes, they are. I would know this better than you because I've spent my entire life around them. How insulting it is when people insinuate that they care more about my animals than I do.

"I don’t believe they were put on this earth for man to torture so our government can make a profit. "

Well, I for one don't think soybeans were put on this earth to make milk.

I grew up on and off the farm and I have to shake my head at the whole notion that farmers are "cruel". After all, we have to make a living off those animals, and cruelty causes unhappy, unhealthy animals. Unhappy, unhealthy animals are a financial liability.

What I find disgusting is jerks that think a cat or dog can be a vegan and be healthy. Now THAT'S cruel.

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals.

The next time we do a big dinner, I'm going to hang a sign on the dor that I once saw in a restaurant:

"Vegans will be spit-roasted"

If you google "life of a dairy cow" you find a site from the 4-H orginization first off. Then you find something from the very biased HSUS (Humane Society of the United States) which is made of people that have probably never actually been on a farm or worked on a farm their entire lives and are, for the most part, a bunch of self-righteous, left-wing zealots.

Your post is made almost entirely of copy/pasted words from their article. Where I come from that's not just plagarism, it's also lazy writing.

I don't do that. Ever. Waste of time, especially since I lived that.

Could it be that I exercise basic common sense? Something that is common knowledge for everyone who HASN'T lived in a city for their entire lives?

Um, yeah we don't live in a utopia. This is the same argument I use for the non-smokers.

They're called jobs. Americans need money. Americans need jobs. Americans need cigarettes. Americans need milk. You take away the cigarettes and the milk, our way of life is over, my friend.

Get it?

Rense.com

Dangers Of Milk And

Dairy Products - The Facts

By Dave Rietz

Webmaster www.notmilk.com

Yes... milk is Mother Nature's "perfect food" ...for a calf... until it is weaned.

Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a Dairy industry MYTH.

Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased animals that contains a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.

MILK'S BASIC CONTENTS

*ALL* cow's milk (regular and 'organic') has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat and cholesterol.

Most cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides, pesticides, dioxins (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53, with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow ate... including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing ... (the 50's strontium-90 problem).

LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN AMERICA

<link> (1998)

Rank Total Description

1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat/dairy)

2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy)

2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. think ignorance/incompetence)

3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy)

4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy)

5 97,835 Unintentional Injuries and Adverse Effects

6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and

mucus)

7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy)

7a 40,000+ Highway slaughter (men, women and children)

8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems)

9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright's disease: inflammation of the

kidneys)

10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins)

(2a and 7a were added for completeness)

(note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law enforcement and homicides... and not the 250,000 deaths caused by the medical system!)

CANCER FUEL

Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin- like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical in cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for any cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers).

IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because they do not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors.

(See <link> for a time line)

QUANTITY

Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of milk... because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese. Each bite of ice cream has 12 times ... and every swipe of butter 21 times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of milk.

MONSANTO AND rbGH (Posilac)

Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent orange, Roundup and more... spent around half a billion dollars inventing a shot to inject into cows... to force a cow to produce MORE milk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market).

Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals... but that important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden from everyone under Clinton's Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read enough of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their country.

Monsanto's Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that breast feeding cannot work. Common sense says their "finding" is ridiculous because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow (rapidly, as mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board at <link> to review a DAIRY study that confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years.

(My message was to long to paste - you'll have to go to the web page to finish reading if you can handle anymore)

Dave Rietz

dorietz@awod.com

July 2002

<link>

"Dangers Of Milk And

Dairy Products - The Facts

By Dave Rietz

Webmaster www.notmilk.com"

Way to use a neutral source. You're worse than an idiot; you're a shill. You're being used by an idiot.

Dear MessyONE

Sorry if you were offended by my post. I did not insinuate that farmers are “cruel”. Factory Farming is Cruel.

I live in farm territory in Harford Co. Maryland on the PA line. I work in Baltimore City and I’m exposed to a whole different breed of animals in the hood. None of the farmers I know are cruel – a little weird maybe. The farmers I know are more open minded then the ones on this posting site. Most of them are struggling to make ends meet and all but one gave up on his dairy cows years ago because they could not compete with the big shots. Most of them have to get part time jobs just to survive financially.

I do know that mommy cows produce milk for their calves and women produce milk for their babies. Both are weaned at some point. Baby cows do not drink milk produced by humans so it’s probably safe to say that it wasn’t intended for humans to drink the milk from cows as babies or adults.

So to each his own. If you ever decide to be a little more open minded, you may want to check out a DVD called (the Mad Cowboy) it’s about a 4th Generation Rancher named Howard Lyman

Hope you enjoy your weekendJ,

Dawn

Oh – You must be a rocket scientist. Well moo moo buck a roo – hope you enjoy you weekend tooJ

...closed mind!

I like real food. I cook real food. I've gardened all my life. I can can, freeze, preserve, and dry any fruit or veg you can name, and I can make jam.

I have raised, killed and butchered my fair share of animals. That's life. I find it fascinating that people whose only encounter with meat is what they see wrapped in plastic feel free to opine on the nature of what we eat.

I come from a long line of extraordinarily long-lived individuals. I can assure you that not one of them ever ate soy food-like products in their lives. In point of fact, they all drank their fair share of alcohol and most of them smoked. In spite of all that, they lived well and healthily into their mid to late nineties with most of their marbles intact.

No one gets to dictate to me, on any subject, ever. I am perfectly capable of doing my own research and learning what I need to about whatever topic strikes my fancy at the moment. It's just not that big a deal.

However, I will not accept as fact on this subject anything but a large-scale relatively long term, fully replicable study that has been peer reviewed and published in a recognized medical or scientific journal. If you wish to sway anyone with science, then you can forget posting links to the people you have chosen to listen to because you like what they have to say.

Show us the data, or don't waste our time.