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Pop psychology parenting loses
by fuddman7
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If you take a brief step back and read this kind of verbiage for raising children, it almost assumes from the outset that there will be no respect for the parent from the child. But that is little surprise considering pop psychology's preclusion of spanking and overzealous adherence to softer punishment for children.

Any parent with a young child can appreciate the pangs of hunger a person feels with much greater respect, because hearing the cry of a hungry child expresses it so well. The same goes with spanking a child; foremost on the mind of most children is avoiding pain. The reason spanking has been abandoned, it seems, is the same topic of this article: it has been done incorrectly in the past and can be damaging to the child.

However, if a parent spanks correctly, the child will be more likely to respect the parent and obey. Some children will be more difficult than others, but at least you won't be negotiating your way through child-rearing with a child that doesn't respect you, perhaps by virtue that you have to negotiate with a child.

So Bullies are respected
by degsme

So bullies, who rely on using hitting to gain compliance, are respected right?

Oh that's right, they aren't. They are feared and often obeyed, but they are not respected.

RESPECTdoes not come from a parent proving to the child he or she is stronger, bigger and able to hit them without hitting back.

There is no way to hit a child correctly. Spanking is just a euphemism for hitting. So lets go back and rewrite your claim with more honesty.

The reason hitting children has been abandoned, it seems, is the same topic of this article: it has been done incorrectly in the past and can be damaging to the child.

However, if a parent hits their child correctly, the child will be more likely to respect the parent and obey

My that sounds so wise....

Re: So Bullies are respected
by Bunt
Wow. I was actually just browsing through the net & stumbled upon complete ignorance! The person you responded to used the phrase "However, if a parent spanks their child correctly..." and you flippantly interchange the words to say "...hit their child correctly..." This tells me volumes about your own character if you can't even quote someone's words they way they wrote them. There is a huge difference between the 2 words. You very obviously don't have young children. I will spank my kids in the store if they happen to misbehave (in all honesty, none of them have ever had a big outburst because if you can't discipline your kids at home you can't suddenly start in public), and I dare you to call the police. There is a right way to spank and a wrong way. I stay in control of my emotions and spank immediatley, not after I've given 9 warnings... They get one chance to listen, understand and obey. My kids are respectful to their elders, step in to diffuse the situation when they see another child getting picked on, and know that I love them something fierce. Discipline (even spankings) must be combined with buckets of love. I'm not a perfect person or parent, but I raise my kids according to what the Bible says "...spare the rod and spoil the child." I don't know about you, but when something is spoiled, I throw it away. When I worked retail, it never failed that a kid would throw a fit at checkout for candy, and the mom said no numerous times before caving and buying the candy to get the kid to stop squalling. Any intelligent person can see all this is, is "shut up" candy. I was so tempted each time to tell the mom "Go ahead and give him a swat, I will not call the police, you'll only do the public a favor, and you're only doing a disservice to your child by giving in like that." But you don't tell a frazzled mother that in the checkout line. If a child can't learn to respect the person in authority over him, he'll learn it when he's an adult when he's sitting in the big grey house wondering why his momma didn't spank him.
Re: So Bullies are respected
by efraker

"Wow. I was actually just browsing through the net & stumbled upon complete ignorance!"

Ignorance on the Internet? Its more likely than you think. Example:

"The person you responded to used the phrase "However, if a parent spanks their child correctly..." and you flippantly interchange the words to say "...hit their child correctly..." This tells me volumes about your own character if you can't even quote someone's words they way they wrote them. There is a huge difference between the 2 words."

To quote the poster you were relying to: "Spanking is just a euphemism for hitting. So lets go back and rewrite your claim with more honesty."

There was no claim that they were quoting the person they were responding to.

Further, spanking is a euphemism for hitting. Euphemism means "another way of saying something that doesn't sound so bad". Spanking is obviously another way of saying hitting, and it is also obviously used because there is a negative connotation with saying "I hit my children".

Finally, it's rude to call people ignorant, even on the Internet; its particularly silly to do so when you didn't even read what they said. If your parents had hit you more often, would you have learned to be nicer?

Euphemisms are nice
by degsme

Euphemisms are nice. But here is the definition of hitting:

to deliver (as a blow) by action c: to apply forcefully or suddenly

Spanking.

to strike especially on the buttocks with the open hand

And here is what it means "to Strike":

to aim and usually deliver a blow, stroke, or thrust (as with the hand, a weapon, or a tool)

Notice how the definition of spanking is synonymous in definition with hitting. Its nice that you rationalize that you hit your children, but that is all it is. You are hitting your children.

That you do it mendaciously and without anger is even worse. That is using violence and fear as a way of teaching your children. How abusive is that?

Discipline is the VOLUNTARY following of a set of tenets. Forcing someone to comply out of fear of being hit is not "discipline" it is terrorism. Mixing terrorism with "buckets of love" is guaranteed to create fucked up outcomes. Thank god you stay away from children at work.

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