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Who is the REAL Obama?
by redwhite&blue
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Read the facts, and then decide.

Re: Who is the REAL Obama?
by entj4sure
We have decided, he is the next President of the United States. You Republicans can keep posting this crap, but you are spinning your wheels.
Re: Who is the REAL Obama?
by Jason M. Bryant
Here's another secret about Obama that everyone needs to know. He's actually lying about his father being Black, he is actually as White as can be. Before entering kindergarten he figured out that being Black is politically advantageous in America, so he started wearing darkening makeup.
Re: Who is the REAL Obama?
by tubbs

redwhite&blue,

Some of your previous posts indicated that you were smarter than this.

The Obama/Muslim argument is so stupid it ought to be a reality television show.

Obama is not a Muslim this lie has been debunked on numerous occassions and by numerous sources, including Snopes

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But if Obama were a Muslim, WHO CARES?!?!?

Here's a handy little quote that you may or may not be familiar with:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If you know where the quote comes from and what it means then you should be able to figure out why your "Obama's a secret Muslim" canard is worthless.

Re: Who is the REAL Obama?
by redwhite&blue

“then you should be able to figure out why your "Obama's a secret Muslim" canard is worthless.”

MY secret Muslim canard? Go read the article…some of the quotes and sources are:

Associated Press

LA Times

Obama’s Web Site

The New York Times

Not to mention, friends, classmates and colleagues.

Not MY canard, just an article I found interesting and worth reading. Seems to me some on this site don’t want to LEARN anything about anyone, just want to get all glazed-eyed, faint at the first sight of Obama and then hope for a handout.

Re: Who is the REAL Obama?
by tubbs

First, rw&b,

The fact that an article has reputable sources doesn't mean that it is well sourced or that the sources prove what they claim to. I can take any quote out of context from a reputable source to prove my fallacious point.

The reason most people are treating your article like the garbage that it is, is because Obama himself has said he's not a Muslim; he has attended a Christian church for the past twenty years (or did that whole Rev. Wright thing whizz by you); and too many sources to recount have debunked the claim.

I don't have to read every source from a Holocaust denial article to know that it is bunk. And it doesn;t matter if a Holocasut denial article has sources from the NYTimes WaPost or Haaretz. Crap is crap.

Re: Who is the REAL Obama?
by redwhite&blue

Opinions: we all have them and they are based on information and sources. Just because the great Obama said something, doesn’t make it fact either. You base your entire argument on the FACT that “Obama himself has said he's not a Muslim; he has attended a Christian church for the past twenty years (or did that whole Rev. Wright thing whizz by you); and too many sources to recount have debunked the claim.”

I think it is fair to present other information and dialog into a conversation. If you want to believe what Obama is saying, good for you. I on the other hand, want more information and am seeking that information from multiple sources, not just the one person in question. In addition, it is hard for me to believe everything Obama is saying on this subject just based on his recent remarks about sitting in church for 20-plus years and never hearing the good Rev. Write spew his anti-American hate tirades. As you said, Crap is Crap.

Re: Who is the REAL Obama?
by tubbs

First, regardless of opinion, it is documented fact (that you yourself have conceded) that Obama "sat in that church" for twenty years. Church . . . not mosque . . . church.

I suppose that Obama could have been also secretly attending Mosque services in his spare time while not campaigning, legislating, and community organizing. But, since I don't go in for the "Elvis and Tupac still Live!" type of headlines, I'll just ignore that possibility.

Of course, open conversation is good, but there is no reason that intelligent people should entertain every ridiculous claim that comes down the pike. Ridculous claims would include: holocaust denial, Elvis lives, Obama is a Muslim . . . but also attended United Trinity Church with his crazy (possibly Muslim?) pastor Rev. Wright.

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