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The peril of relying on white people
by doodahman

Clinton Team Acknowledges $20 Million Debt

By Anne E. Kornblut

Washington Post Staff Writer

Monday, May 12, 2008

CLARKSBURG, W.Va., May 11 -- With her campaign falling ever deeper into debt, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton spent a rainy Mother's Day seeking votes ahead of Tuesday's primary here, turning a deaf ear to calls for her to leave a Democratic presidential contest she has little hope of winning.

Clinton aides continued to insist that she will remain in the race even while confirming that she is $20 million in debt. "The voters are going to decide this," senior adviser Howard Wolfson said on "Fox News Sunday," acknowledging the $20 million figure. "There is no reason for her not to continue this process." Wolfson said he has seen "no evidence of her interest" in pursuing the second-place spot on the Democratic ticket, contrary to rumors that she is staying in the race to leverage a bid for the vice presidential nomination.

My oh my.

How hard the mighty have fallen, eh? Here’s a candidate who claims now to be the great White Savior, the clearly chosen of the White Voter, and the asshole can’t even manage to keep enough money coming in to run the campaign. $20 million in debt? Seriously—this is the person white people want running the gov’t? Someone who can’t even raise enough money to keep her campaign going when her final thread of hope is some sort of electoral miracle in the last six primaries?

Come on, you lazy ass white bastards. What’s wrong with you? You can moan and bitch about Obama people and their cult, but in the end, you let your own candidate down. Couldn’t spare a few dimes to chip in to the woman who YOU CLAIM is fighting for you? I guess hot air and bigoted attitudes is all you got, huh?

I don’t know what’s more pathetic—Clinton’s claim to the nomination based on what she says white folks want, or the fact that you all won’t even give up a pork chop a week in order to support her candidacy.

To quote Tonto, “what you mean ‘we’, pale face?”

Re: The peril of relying on white people
by ZiggyTosh
doodahman:

Come on, you lazy ass white bastards. What’s wrong with you? You can moan and bitch about Obama people and their cult, but in the end, you let your own candidate down. Couldn’t spare a few dimes to chip in to the woman who YOU CLAIM is fighting for you? I guess hot air and bigoted attitudes is all you got, huh?

Yup. Talk is cheap; actual donations aren't.
Re: The peril of relying on white people
by Liberal Patriot

Wow....So many ways to respond to this. Or not at all, considering. Could take the high road, like most Democrats and attempt to confer with you in a direct and friendly manner so as to "win you over" or....

...just kick you right back in the nuts with the same racist horseshit your post is full of. But I may risk giving you a heart attack by exposing you and your aboriginal brethen for the thin-skinned, mouthy cowards that you truly are. After all, it was your ancestral tribes who did not possess the courage nor the wit to leave Africa and explore the northern, western and eastern continents, and hence did not evolve to survive harsh climes and create tools that eventually led to the Renaissance, Industrial Revolution and Space Exploration.

You see, we all originated in Africa so it's not as if you any different from me...but you are. You might say your "Roots" are closer to swinging on the vine than your brothers who had the balls and smarts to explore the world. Lazy? It was your ancestors who sat on their asses to wait for coconuts to fall out of the sky and starve by the millions when there's a drought..right to this day. And they do this because they are sooo smart?

I'll bet you're one of those whining crybabies who wants a hand out for having ancestors who were slaves. Guess what? It will never happen. Why don't you go bitch and whine at the enemy tribes that captured and sold your shiftless asses into slavery? Let me tell you something, punk, slavery has been around a long time and your pathetic breed just happened to be the last to go through the abomination that whites had been slaves to for thousands of years before your entire race was even known to exist. Oh Po me! Welcome to the real world.

I'm just glad that I'm an equal opportunity offender ready to go toe to toe and look you right in the eye without flinching.

Now let's talk Barak and Hillary. I'm a registered Independant so I could care less which one of the two win the candidacy. Whoever it is gets my vote because the stinking Republicans will simply continue to ruin this country. I've spoken with Mr. Obama at a rally and find him to be quite astute and very dynamic. Sometimes charisma is more valuable than experience if he or she has the gift as it can mean the difference between war and peace. I think either one will make a great president.

Personally, I think one of the things that the next president can do to heal this country and repair it would be to reinstate the draft. Give all the illegal aliens the chance to earn part of their residency, not citizenship, by serving for three years in the Armed Forces. There would be many who take it up and I bet there would be more who would stampede south of the Rio Grande, never to return. So we solved the "Immigration Problem" there. Also, all of your fat, greasy, slippery-shit-mouthed "Gangsta" wannabe's will find themselves at attention, eye-to-eye with Sargent No-Neck instead of hanging around street corners selling illegal drugs, and shooting off their mouthes showing the world just how stupid some of y'all can be. No better than the KKK.

Sucks to be tagged with negative connotation doesn't it?

Good thing that I believe that most people recognize and respect the freedoms and liberties of most people and that the majority of all of us minorities who make up this great nation called the USA doesn't think like you.

Re: The peril of relying on white people
by doodahman
Liberal Patriot:

Wow....So many ways to respond to this. Or not at all, considering. Could take the high road, like most Democrats and attempt to confer with you in a direct and friendly manner so as to "win you over" or....

...just kick you right back in the nuts with the same racist horseshit your post is full of. But I may risk giving you a heart attack by exposing you and your aboriginal brethen for the thin-skinned, mouthy cowards that you truly are. After all, it was your ancestral tribes who did not possess the courage nor the wit to leave Africa and explore the northern, western and eastern continents, and hence did not evolve to survive harsh climes and create tools that eventually led to the Renaissance, Industrial Revolution and Space Exploration.

You see, we all originated in Africa so it's not as if you any different from me...but you are. You might say your "Roots" are closer to swinging on the vine than your brothers who had the balls and smarts to explore the world. Lazy? It was your ancestors who sat on their asses to wait for coconuts to fall out of the sky and starve by the millions when there's a drought..right to this day. And they do this because they are sooo smart?

I'll bet you're one of those whining crybabies who wants a hand out for having ancestors who were slaves. Guess what? It will never happen. Why don't you go bitch and whine at the enemy tribes that captured and sold your shiftless asses into slavery? Let me tell you something, punk, slavery has been around a long time and your pathetic breed just happened to be the last to go through the abomination that whites had been slaves to for thousands of years before your entire race was even known to exist. Oh Po me! Welcome to the real world.

I'm just glad that I'm an equal opportunity offender ready to go toe to toe and look you right in the eye without flinching.

Now let's talk Barak and Hillary. I'm a registered Independant so I could care less which one of the two win the candidacy. Whoever it is gets my vote because the stinking Republicans will simply continue to ruin this country. I've spoken with Mr. Obama at a rally and find him to be quite astute and very dynamic. Sometimes charisma is more valuable than experience if he or she has the gift as it can mean the difference between war and peace. I think either one will make a great president.

Personally, I think one of the things that the next president can do to heal this country and repair it would be to reinstate the draft. Give all the illegal aliens the chance to earn part of their residency, not citizenship, by serving for three years in the Armed Forces. There would be many who take it up and I bet there would be more who would stampede south of the Rio Grande, never to return. So we solved the "Immigration Problem" there. Also, all of your fat, greasy, slippery-shit-mouthed "Gangsta" wannabe's will find themselves at attention, eye-to-eye with Sargent No-Neck instead of hanging around street corners selling illegal drugs, and shooting off their mouthes showing the world just how stupid some of y'all can be. No better than the KKK.

Sucks to be tagged with negative connotation doesn't it?

Good thing that I believe that most people recognize and respect the freedoms and liberties of most people and that the majority of all of us minorities who make up this great nation called the USA doesn't think like you.

Actually, fucktoad, I'm Italian. You wasted that entire bigoted rant on another putative whitey. Good job. My ancestors were writing advanced codes of civil law and the foundation of Western Civilization when yours were picking fleas off each other and wondering how to beat those fucking legions.

Re: The peril of relying on white people
by artandsoul

And can I add WHO is giving her this kind of credit? I mean, I can sort of see how someone can incur $5,000 debt on a VISA card - but $20 million? By one campaign? Is this just the broadest possible glimpse into deficit spending ever??

What happened to that "remarkable, and record setting" infusion of money that was supposedly POURING into her campaign after Indiana?

Re: The peril of relying on white people
by doodahman
artandsoul:

And can I add WHO is giving her this kind of credit? I mean, I can sort of see how someone can incur $5,000 debt on a VISA card - but $20 million? By one campaign? Is this just the broadest possible glimpse into deficit spending ever??

What happened to that "remarkable, and record setting" infusion of money that was supposedly POURING into her campaign after Indiana?

This is just the most concrete evidence that the opposition to Barack is both shallow and relatively meaningless. These fuckers can bitch all day long about how he can't win, how he'll destroy the country, but when it comes down to actually getting off their asses to write a check, canvass, or do anythying but shoot their mouths off, NOTHING.

You know, there's one constant blue collar principle that ought to come into play here-- one that hardworking, white and non-white Americans understand and accept:

EITHER PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

When it comes to Clinton, they won't do either. Hardly a working class characteristic, is it? Which leads to the questions: who are these people and why do they matter?

Answers: nobody, and they don't.

Re: The peril of relying on white people
by artandsoul
doodahman:
artandsoul:

And can I add WHO is giving her this kind of credit? I mean, I can sort of see how someone can incur $5,000 debt on a VISA card - but $20 million? By one campaign? Is this just the broadest possible glimpse into deficit spending ever??

What happened to that "remarkable, and record setting" infusion of money that was supposedly POURING into her campaign after Indiana?

You know, there's one constant blue collar principle that ought to come into play here-- one that hardworking, white and non-white Americans understand and accept:

EITHER PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

When it comes to Clinton, they won't do either. Hardly a working class characteristic, is it? Which leads to the questions: who are these people and why do they matter?

Answers: nobody, and they don't.

Yes, and it leads credence to the metaphor of the freight train that is the Obama campaign.

I like how you said it. Three choices: get on, get out of the way, or get run over.

On the day after the Indiana/North Carolina primaries I remember reading some bullshit about how Hillary had pulled in her largest EVER online donations etc --- and I've been so interested to see the figures. Today, a $20M debt is the first figure I've seen -- so where is all that grass-roots, hard-working support?

Obama has shown that it doesn't take thousands of dollars, just small donations from lots of people. So where are all those folks who are making her so electable? Where are their $100 contributions? And all those volunteers to campaign for her? Where are they?

I think its pitiful that sh'es still allowed to run with such a deficit and such poor chances. It's freaking over. The voters HAVE spoken!

Re: The peril of relying on white people
by StevieN
As a lazy-assed white person myself, doodahman, I can see you're right. You make an excellent point: If only Hillary can get white votes/whites won't vote for Obama, then why have her donations dried up to nothing?
Re: The peril of relying on white people
by doodahman

StevieN:
As a lazy-assed white person myself, doodahman, I can see you're right. You make an excellent point: If only Hillary can get white votes/whites won't vote for Obama, then why have her donations dried up to nothing?

Don't sweat it-- in an era where most of the value of our labor is stolen by owners who won't share productivity related profits, why work your ass off unless you have your own business.

It's funny though. These people act like Obama can't win without their support, but their support couldn't even give Clinton a victory when her only opponent was a one term African American Senator with a Muslim name, a crazy ass pastor and a fishwife.

Oh, but they'll decide the election, alright.......

Re: The peril of relying on white people
by Liberal Patriot

"Actually, fucktoad, I'm Italian. You wasted that entire bigoted rant on another putative whitey. Good job. My ancestors were writing advanced codes of civil law and the foundation of Western Civilization when yours were picking fleas off each other and wondering how to beat those fucking legions."

Oh yes, and beat them we did! Well bust my britches! But I do beg your pardon. You started the bigoted rant, I just followed up with it and gave it back, after all, you Italians are just hop over the pond from your brother darkies as well as those east and west of you. And it was my breed [Celts] that raped and pillaged Rome, asshole, plunging into a drunken frenzie, raping your big titted women until you kicked our asses right back up the boot, then you Christ Killers found a new angle to the racket and took up with them to start the Holy Roman Catholic Empire which plunged what could have been modern civilization into what we now call the Dark Ages until one of my brethren on my fathers side said "Fuck You, Pope!" and launched the Renaissance in Europe.

My apologies to all of you of darker descent who may have taken offense by my response to this snotty WOP. I grew up with dago's and they're tough in numbers but their greasy black faces turn white when you get them alone, one on one. Got a World War 2 Italian rifle for sale, never fired, dropped once.

Well y'all make great food and wine, that is for sure. Now run home and get your friggin shine box.

Re: The peril of relying on white people
by doodahman
Liberal Patriot:

"Actually, fucktoad, I'm Italian. You wasted that entire bigoted rant on another putative whitey. Good job. My ancestors were writing advanced codes of civil law and the foundation of Western Civilization when yours were picking fleas off each other and wondering how to beat those fucking legions."

Oh yes, and beat them we did! Well bust my britches! But I do beg your pardon. You started the bigoted rant, I just followed up with it and gave it back, after all, you Italians are just hop over the pond from your brother darkies as well as those east and west of you. And it was my breed [Celts] that raped and pillaged Rome, asshole, plunging into a drunken frenzie, raping your big titted women until you kicked our asses right back up the boot, then you Christ Killers found a new angle to the racket and took up with them to start the Holy Roman Catholic Empire which plunged what could have been modern civilization into what we now call the Dark Ages until one of my brethren on my fathers side said "Fuck You, Pope!" and launched the Renaissance in Europe.

My apologies to all of you of darker descent who may have taken offense by my response to this snotty WOP. I grew up with dago's and they're tough in numbers but their greasy black faces turn white when you get them alone, one on one. Got a World War 2 Italian rifle for sale, never fired, dropped once.

Well y'all make great food and wine, that is for sure. Now run home and get your friggin shine box.

Uh huh. Well, it must really grate you then to have to fall in line and support a Black president.

Don't worry. I'm sure they'll find some affirmative action job for a dipshit cracker like you.

Oh, incidentally, read any good Celtic literature lately?

Re: The peril of relying on white people
by Liberal Patriot
Not really. I think Obama will make a darn good president. There is only one race, human, that makes me a equal opportunity offender. I'll bust my own balls as readily as I'll bust yours or any other ethnic variety. We all managed to fuck up as a group throughout history. I also believe that most humans are good, hard working people who care about their families. As far as Celtic Literature, the list is way too long to list here, especially if you include the ancient celtic literature. Too bad Rome burned the libraries of Alexandria, eh? Eat any good books lately?
Re: The peril of relying on white people
by doodahman

Liberal Patriot:
Not really. I think Obama will make a darn good president. There is only one race, human, that makes me a equal opportunity offender. I'll bust my own balls as readily as I'll bust yours or any other ethnic variety. We all managed to fuck up as a group throughout history. I also believe that most humans are good, hard working people who care about their families. As far as Celtic Literature, the list is way too long to list here, especially if you include the ancient celtic literature. Too bad Rome burned the libraries of Alexandria, eh? Eat any good books lately?

Well then, if you can support the big O, we really have no quarrel. I fully agree that there is but one race, human. That's the reason I attack "whitey." Try and get your brain around it. It's called taking your opponent's paradigm and turning it around on him. I can do it, being nominally "white", you see. It doesn't quite work when it's a white person dissing blacks, though (or an African American dissing whites, for that matter). Hence, our conflict.

Although, I have some historical qualms. The Celts never sacked Rome. The Gauls did (which, since I'm half northern Italian and half southern, the Cis Alpine Gauls who sacked Rome were my ancestors as well). My understanding is that the Celtic variety of Gaul was never conquered per se-- we never got past Hadrian's wall. Also, If by Celt you mean "Irish" that is. But then, the Irish never struck me as being part of "whitey" anyway.

As for Alexandria, Caesar did order the torching of the docks, which spread to the library, but at the time, the Alexandria Libary was just one of hundreds of major document depositories. A tragedy, but not a seminal one.

Latah,

dood

Re: The peril of relying on white people
by Liberal Patriot

LMAO! Tell me about it. You had me going goodd. Read any great Irish cookbooks? The island that starved because they ran out of potatoes! Makes you wonder.

Most of my family is Italian and my wife is from Panama but the town I live in has a lot of Greeks. Now, they make good salads and baclava but what they need to do is send the rest of their recipe's to Italy to apply the finishing touch.

Re: The peril of relying on white people
by doodahman
Liberal Patriot:

LMAO! Tell me about it. You had me going goodd. Read any great Irish cookbooks? The island that starved because they ran out of potatoes! Makes you wonder.

Most of my family is Italian and my wife is from Panama but the town I live in has a lot of Greeks. Now, they make good salads and baclava but what they need to do is send the rest of their recipe's to Italy to apply the finishing touch.

Yes, that's the way of Western civ-- the Greeks started it, and the Romans polished it up and made it practical.

For instance, as the old story goes, the Greeks invented eros-- erotic sexual love; however, it was the Romans who adapted it to sex with women.

Generally, though, I never think of myself as "white." It just doesn't seem to be a meaningful category or aspect of identity. I prefer to think of myself as Mediterranean-- sharing a common culture with the Greeks, Syrians, Turks, Jews, North Africans, and southern French/Spanish as opposed to Northern Europeans.

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