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Maybe she just meant that blacks are lazy?
by progressivebulldog

Hillary said she was ahead with "hardworking people...working class white people." She wasn't saying that blacks are necessarily bad, just that white people work hard and blacks don't. Or maybe that black people can work hard as long as there's a white person looking over them. An overseer, if you will.

So all Hillary was really saying was that black people are unmotivated and lazy unless a white person helps them out. Kind of like when she said that Martin Luther King didn't really achieve anything, but that it took LBJ to get civiil rights passed. You know that's what us white people do. We do the right thing because were really good. I'm sure the protests, marches and speeches did nothing to persuade LBJ. He just pushed through that legislation without any outside influence because he was a good, decent, hardworking white man.

How dare anyone call Hillary racist. She's really cares about all people. Even the lazy ones who can't work hard on their own.

I don't mind that Obamacrats are
by Gatewood
calling Hillary racist when her record proves that she is anything but a racist. In a similar manner I don't mind if vast numbers of Black voters are demonstrating racism in voting for Obama primarily because Hillary isn't Black enough for them. If skin color is their most important consideration for president, then that's cool.

What's fun about this race is that previously taboo, politically incorrect subject matter and interpretations are now wide open for discussion.

We see that Blacks can indeed be terrible racists in huge voting blocks and that ultra liberals are steeped in bigotry against the White working class, but NOT the hispanic or Asian, Black, or Native-American. They only despise poor White working people.

It will be very interesting to see how the GOP propaganda corps plays with that theme if Obama 'wins' the nomination -- thanks to the DNC, of course.


Re: I don't mind that Obamacrats are
by mithros

Objectively, Hillary's record proves that she is not racist. However, it also proves that she's willing to play on racist fears and stereotypes to achieve her own personal ambitions.

Ever since her dismal showing in Iowa, Hillary's message has been clear. Don't nominate Obama, he's black. White people will never vote for a black man.

There are many people in the party who will never forgive her.

Re: I don't mind that Obamacrats are
by LithMike
Gatewood - you really are one sick individual. According to you, the blacks and the ultra-liberals are the ones that vote for Obama. How many of them do you think there are? Half of the population is Republican - that leaves the remaining half Democrats. Of this remaining half, the majority has gone for Obama. Are you saying that over 75% of America is ultra-liberal or black? Or is everyone that isn't for Hillary an ultra-liberal?
Why are you so terrified of
by Gatewood
these issues? What is it about them that makes your blood run cold, that threatens the foundation of what it means to be you?
Re: I don't mind that Obamacrats are
by progressivebulldog

Gatewood:
calling Hillary racist when her record proves that she is anything but a racist. In a similar manner I don't mind if vast numbers of Black voters are demonstrating racism in voting for Obama primarily because Hillary isn't Black enough for them. If skin color is their most important consideration for president, then that's cool.

Hillary may not be racist herself but she's clearly playing on racism to win votes or maybe to steal the elction from Obama. What does her statement that she is doing better with hard working white people imply? That Obama can't win their votes. These are regular Democratic voters who normally vote for the Democratic nominee and Obama's policies are very similiar to Hillary's so what's left? These people will not vote for Obama because he's black.

What's fun about this race is that previously taboo, politically incorrect subject matter and interpretations are now wide open for discussion.

We see that Blacks can indeed be terrible racists in huge voting blocks and that ultra liberals are steeped in bigotry against the White working class, but NOT the hispanic or Asian, Black, or Native-American. They only despise poor White working people.

BS! A lot of women are voting for Hillary because she's a woman too. Are they sexist? Would they not vote for a man? No. They are voting for Hillary because they want to see "one of their own" in the White House. I'm sure many blacks are voting for Obama in part because of his race but if you look at the early primaries Hillary was winning a lot of black votes.

This is the first election where a woman and a black man are viable candidates. Since it hasn't happened before ever then I can't get too upset wtih women voting for Hillary or blacks voting for Obama. They feel this may be their only chance. As a white guy I'll have many opportunities to vote for someone "like me" in the future.

Of course it should be about who's the best candidate. I feel that that's Obama. Obama has tried to keep race and gender out of the campaign as much as possible. Bill and Hillary regularly bring up that Obama is the "black" candidate but I don't hear Obama bringing up gender.

It will be very interesting to see how the GOP propaganda corps plays with that theme if Obama 'wins' the nomination -- thanks to the DNC, of course.

Well you're right on that. Of course they would have anyway but Hillary has given them more ammunition against Obama. Hopefully working class whites won't be dumb enough to buy the lies from the right this time.


There was a poster earlier pointing out
by Gatewood

how Obama deliberately played the race card fairly early on in this nomination process and did so first.

But that's okay, right? It's not racist if Obama does it?

Look, you and the rest of the Obamacrats can embrace double standards and what amounts to outright bigotry in many ways. That's your right. It is also the right of mainstream democrats to point out where you are being hypocrites or bigots or even racists.

It is very likely that mainstream democrats will never forgive Obama and Obamacrats for running this race in such a filthy fashion.

There, does that make you feel better? A bit of titt for your tatt?

You don't think that the majority of democrats will come to look at Obama and Obamacrats in that light? Have you been paying attention to the rumblings in the party of late or some of the things that some few members of the press are finally beginning to print or say?

Re: Why are you so terrified of
by entj4sure
Gatewood, his blood runs cold because of people like you. You spout generalizations but fancy yourself "enlightened". Ha!
Awwww . . . did I strike a nerve or
by Gatewood

two?

As for old feminists [let's make it very plain what you are talking about here in your ageism and misogyny], you damn well better believe that those angry, bitter feminists are being bigoted in huge numbers in their preference for Hillary primarily because she is a SHE. JUST as vast numbers of Black voters are being blatant racists in their voting for Obama just because Black is Beautiful.

You see how REAL liberalism is supposed to work? Everyone is equal to everyone else. You don't pander to anyone.

Now TRY thinking outside of current liberal doxology. It's the rote cant that is dangerous and this is true whether the person embracing that spiritual and intellectual poison is a member of the Far Right OR the Far Left.

Do you understand how one
by Gatewood

becomes enlightened?

You study and learn and then you tear YOURSELF down and reveal your spiritual and intellectual roots to harsh scrutiny and then you study and learn and tear yourself apart again until you actually manage in this process to set yourself free.

No charge.

Re: Do you understand how one
by ZiggyTosh
Gatewood:

becomes enlightened?

You study and learn and then you tear YOURSELF down and reveal your spiritual and intellectual roots to harsh scrutiny and then you study and learn and tear yourself apart again until you actually manage in this process to set yourself free.

No charge.

Wait, did you seriously just try to claim that you are enlightened and can teach others the path? Yes, you exude inner peace, that self-assurance of one who is quietly confident of her views and can not be rattled by the arguments of outsiders.

Sweetheart, just because your anxiety has ever so slightly subsided since prozac hit the market doesn't mean you have anything worthwhile to teach anyone else about enlightenment.

No, Child, I cannot teach
by Gatewood

enlightenment. No one can. A person can gain enlightenment from the teachings of others but that is always an individualistic, and hit or miss, prospect.

Enlightenment comes from within and occurs [usually anyway] only after a massive investment in hard work and brutal self-honesty. It usually then takes the student utterly by surprise. Also enlightenment can mean different things to different people.

Weird eh? Go figure.

Re: No, Child, I cannot teach
by thewolf05827

"enlightenment can mean different things to different people"

In your case it appears to mean whimpering endlessly like the silly bitch you are. Funny reading a punk like you pontificating about "enlightenment;" what's it like being a misunderstood teenager, anyway?

Re: No, Child, I cannot teach
by ZiggyTosh
Gatewood:

A person can gain enlightenment from the teachings of others but that is always an individualistic, and hit or miss, prospect.

Heavy.

What is the sound of one jackass bitching cause her candidate lost?

Re: No, Child, I cannot teach
by groovelady

hey guys--you misunderstand Gatewood--he's saying that blacks aren't racist when they vote for whites, but that they are racists when they vote for blacks. Get it?

hmmm...where have I heard this "logic" before?

Gatewood, do yourself a favor and become a Republican.

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