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Useful idiots
by silent.observer
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Evangelicals are suffering from an image problem, with more younger people finding them "judgmental and hypocritical", not practicing what they preach, and lashing back against religion after a generation of culture war. The term 'evangelical' itself is getting to be a label of shame -- kinda reminds me of how the word "liberal" has become an insult. Reap what you sow, reap it.

And so an 'Evangelical Manifesto' released yesterday decries the transmutation from faith to ideology.

"That way faith loses its independence, the church becomes `the regime at prayer,' Christians become `useful idiots' for one political party or another, and the Christian faith becomes an ideology in its purest form," the document reads.

Naturally, there are critics of the document and some evangelical leaders have not signed on to it. Who might you expect, but the selfsame leaders who have pioneered the shift from faith to voting bloc.

Critics claim some key names -- including conservative evangelical leaders such as Focus on the Family founder James Dobson and Southern Baptist public policy executive Richard Land -- are missing from the statement.

"The select group drafting the manifesto apparently excludes traditional conservative, pro-life and pro-family evangelical voices," said Janice Shaw Crouse of Concerned Women for America, who also questioned the timing of the document's release at the end of the primary election season.

Never mind that this so-called 'select group' is pretty large. This document may do well to exclude these folks, however. They are, after all, the problem, not the solution. And the fact that the leaders who have signed on are interested in working with "people of good will, including those of other faiths or no faith" -- could this ever be accepted by the likes of Focus on the Family or CWA? What's more important to them, doing good or doing right (wing)? I think we know which it is.

With any luck, ideas like these will take over as the power of the religious right wanes, as evangelicals struggle to shed the ideological millstone round their neck and move on.

Hope this is what's happening
by Horus

...it wouldn't be surprising, though, if it were happening as a result of evangelicals shooting themselves in the foot with their greed, their hypocrisy, and their self-righteousness.

They've had it coming a LONG time...

Re: Useful idiots
by Anse

Any time a religion with a Victim at its center becomes a part of the Establishment, it has to work very hard to maintain its credibility as a victim-oriented faith.

Re: Useful idiots
by Boss Greer

I guess I'm failing to see the 'victim' part.

How does willfully allowing one's own demise equate to any type of victimization? Doesn't 'victim' require the inability to alter the situation?

Re: Useful idiots
by Reptilicus

Politically, evangelicals in big trouble.

Dobson blatently came out AGAINST McCain (in fairness, McCain already called Robertson and Falwell "agents of intolerance"...so maybe he fired first).

Point is...McCain wins...the RRs are on the outs. McCain would have proven he can win without them.

Obama wins....RRs on the outs and given they couldn't get Huckabee the nomination, proves they're even MORE impotent than before.

Re: Useful idiots
by silent.observer
Well, the religious right didn't unite behind Huckabee and still lose; they split over him and Romney and perhaps some others. That is a statement in itself, though, losing their unity and consequently their influence diminished. But a stronger statement would have been made had they backed a candidate as one and lost.
Re: Useful idiots
by SoreLoser

I saw this earlier in the week and it did stir up a little hope.

The news that younger evangelicals were spliting with the evangelical establishment has been around and the feeling seems to be growing. Even megachurch preacher from Colorado that got outed for drugs and sodomy (whatshisname?) was pro-environment.

Those that want to keep the Religious Right strong are after one thing: Power. Religion is only a tool to that end for many but the worst are "double-highs" with (probably) high scores on both social dominance and RWA scales. These people are actually scary and a threat to our Constitutional form of government.

Re: Useful idiots
by konark_girl

I guess I'm failing to see the 'victim' part.

How does willfully allowing one's own demise equate to any type of victimization?

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Well, maybe not a victim' in the literal sense, but the whole image of the Founder of fiath suffering at the hands of a tyrannical establishment, plus the whole bit about a kingdom that is "not of this world." It did create the impression of a faith that spoke to the oppressed, the helpless, the weak.

Difficult to reconcile with followers of faith being cosy-cuddly WITH the very powerful establishment, and also being mega-rich and powerful IN this world.

Hence the constant attempts to re-position themselves as poor li'l oppressed creatures, never mid how much against reality that goes....

Re: Useful idiots
by Reptilicus

Actually given evangelical animosity towards Mormonism....they should have been pretty united AGAINST Romney.

Plus he was a late-comer to "pro-life" and "no gay marriage".

Re: Useful idiots
by SoreLoser
Yes, it's strange, isn't it? But the defenders of the FYZ compound seem to be mostly evangelicals.
Re: Useful idiots
by SoreLoser
YFZ, actually. ;)
Re: Useful idiots
by Nanotech
ROFLMAO....the only appropriate response.
Re: Useful idiots
by silent.observer
Nanotech:
ROFLMAO....the only appropriate response.
I would expect nothing less from the aforementioned useful idiot. And Arch thinks you have no sense of humor. It's merely an inappropriate sense of humor...
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