I am pro responsibility.

Being pro-life means that I value all life that has value. If you’re an innocent (not a murderer, rapist, or traitor to your country) then you have a right to life and nobody should ever have the right to impose their desires over that right to life. It is the responsibility of the father to protect and provide for the mother and his child and it is the responsibility of the mother to protect and in the absence of a father provide for her child. An abortion is the ultimate failure of both and is akin to murder.

I am pro death penalty because if you commit the crime of murder, rape (murder of the spirit), or treason (murder of your responsibility to your country) then you have lost your right to live. Your life no longer has any value and it is the responsibility of the state to take your life from you. If you murder someone, rape someone, or commit treason then you should be executed. Society must hold you responsible for your crime/s.

This is not being selective as both are a matter of responsibility.

For the vast majority of people in the pro-life movement the life of a convicted killer on death row has no value since he or she has given up that value. So yes, I am pro-life in that I believe that all innocent life has value and I am pro-death penalty in that everyone should be held accountable for his or her actions. There’s no contradiction there.

Cassandra

What I said is that certain civil liberties are usually suspended during wartime. This is not the same thing as saying that I agree with that idea.

Criminals lose many of their freedoms when they’re convicted of a crime. I never said all your freedoms. “Certain” and “all” are not synonymous.

I do not equate US law to divine law, but if you break the law and you are caught you will face the consequences. If someone commits murder, rape, or treason then they should be executed.

Cassandra

Actually I was defending myself, which is not even the same thing as touting my greatness. I have no doubt that some people just beg to have their ego called on the carpet, but I am not one of them.

You have attacked my integrity numerous times. If you question my honor, my honesty, my openness, and my intentions then you are attacking my integrity.

You believe that my posts are self-involved and I counter that by saying that if I can relate to something on a personal level then it is valid. If what I am saying is important to me then they’re not pointless.

You may not agree with my positions or my ability to express them very well, but they are every bit as valid as your own. My education has taught me that we must do our best to be as accurate as possible while yours has taught you to be as simple and direct as possible. Neither method is superior to the other.

As I have said, I do not pimp myself. You believe that I care far more about this blog and the people that post on it than I actually do. I can assure you that I do not.

If you make a personal attack and you have nothing to base that attack on then I will challenge it. If you don’t want it to get personal then keep the personal attacks to yourself. If you want it to be about the issues then stop attacking me. If you make an ignorant assumption about me based on how you feel rather than what you know I will point it out.

How can I take you seriously when you can’t remember how to spell Bananaboat? You will notice that I have never made fun of your username.

Cassandra

A Skinner Box eh? I’m sorry to hear about that. Would that make you a rattus norvegicus or a mus musculus?

I realize that you’re attempting to insult me and I have no doubt that Adrasteia will find you humorous, but I don’t really care either way so I’ll humor you.

In addition to my public education my parents filled in the holes that they missed. They encouraged me to never take anyone’s word for anything and always look things up for myself. I have done much the same with my own children and they have excelled beyond their peers. All 7 should graduate high school between the ages of 12-15. I graduated high school myself at the age of 14.

Throw pillows in the whole scheme of intelligent design…interesting.

Trump University eh? Online even. I just wasn’t that lucky.

After graduating high school I did my undergraduate studies at Oregon State University, went on to earn an MA in Political Science from Stanford University, and finally I earned my MA’s in Business and Theology from George Fox University.

I’m not really worried about how people look at me, but if they make ignorant assumptions, baseless accusations, and outright lies I feel compelled to point it out.

C+ eh? Sorry to hear about that. The worst grade I ever received was a B- and that was because the liberal teacher didn’t like my conservative views. She couldn’t dispute me so she did what she thought she could do in order to lower my grade point average. I fought the grade and after the school board reviewed my report they agreed with me and raised my grade to an A.

You’re a funny guy and I’m sure some will get a laugh. Thanks for responding.

Cassandra

When you’re associations are that evil it’s only fair to find you equally guilty. We are all judged by who our friends are, who we spend our free time with, who we are inspired and encouraged by, who we hold with high esteem, who we invite into our homes and eat with, and who we accept help from. This is because whom we pick as friends and close confidants is a direct reflection on who we are as a person. If a person’s friends (especially the closest ones) are thugs, criminals, mobsters, thieves, radicals, racists, and supporters of Islamic terrorism against the United States and our countries allies then it is only natural to assume that this person is of the same quality. We are indeed quite guilty based on whom we decide to associate with and this is especially true if we’re running for public office. This is true of Obama.

I am not a fan of either of the Clinton’s. I believe that bill was one of the worst presidents that we’ve ever had. I did not want Hillary to win the presidency either, but while I have every reason to believe that the Clinton’s are crooks they are not disloyal crooks. They do love their country and would never knowingly support our enemies, while Obama has and will continue to do so. If a Democrat had to win I wanted it to be her, not because I like her or think she would be any good, but because I think she would do far less damage to the country than Obama would.

Whether Ayers was convicted or not is irrelevant. It doesn’t change who and what he is. OJ Simpson wasn’t convicted either, but that doesn’t mean he was innocent.

John McCain’s only involvement with Keating was that he accepted campaign donations from him. His name was included simply because they didn’t want just Democrats investigated. Once the investigation came out and McCain found out what was going on he refused the money.

My point is the while McCain might have some questionable friends; none of them are radicals, dissidents, subversives, unapologetic racists, or actively supporting Islamic terrorism against the United States. The same cannot be said of many of Obama’s friends.

It’s a matter of the lesser of two evils.

Cassandra

Eh, it wasn’t all that devastating. Just because you agree with something doesn't mean that it's good.

The post was full of misdirection, implication, and misapplication.

Cassandra

“How about we talk about McCain's ties to corporate lobbyists?”

Business associates are not the same thing as personal friends and spiritual mentors.

“How about the fact that McCain consistently mixes up Shia and Sunni and can't seem to figure out where al Qaeda is?

A slip of the tongue, even repeatedly, does not mean that the person doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Al Qaeda isn’t limited to just one country.

“How about McCain's admission he doesn't really understand economics?”

Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses and an intelligent candidate makes a point of picking a running mate that will compliment them and shore up their weaknesses. If elected this intelligent candidate selects cabinet members that continue to shore up these weaknesses. McCain has indeed admitted that economics are not his strong suit, which is why he has made it a point of surrounding himself with people that are excellent on economics. All the admission does is reveal that McCain is honest about himself. This is something that we’ve rarely if ever seen from Obama, who has made a point of hiding who and what he is at every opportunity.

”How about McCain's desire to invade anyone he thinks is a threat?”

This isn’t a desire that he has expressed, but rather a statement that if necessary he will protect the country, her people, her allies, and her interests from any and all threats. I would have a president that will fight for the country than one that will run from every fight.

”In order to be an excellent president one must have the skills, ability, desire, and determination to do so. That is not John McCain. One must have an unwavering love of country. Your litmus test for unwavering love is bizarre at the least. Base on what you know of Obama is that you know nothing of Obama. “

McCain has shown for a very long time that he has the skills, ability, desire, and determination to be an excellent president. He started to show this when he enlisted in the military, moved through the ranks earning medals and awards, and went off to war in Vietnam until he was captured. He showed it every day of the 5-½ years he was a POW by never compromising his honor, respect, dignity, and love of country. His loyalty was tested every day and he never broke. After his release he gathered himself together and moved on to his political career where he has served the United States with distinction. He has the experience of various events that happened during the Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II administrations under his belt. This makes him infinitely more qualified for the presidency than Obama.

My understanding of Obama is quite extensive, as I’ve taken the time to do the research into who and what he is, where he came from, who his friends are, and what his plans are. I’ve met the man in person. I’ve met McCain numerous times through family friends that are in politics. I’ve met the Clintons as well. I’ve been in the White House on 3 different occasions. Have you? My grandmother-in-law used to eat lunch with Ronald Reagan when he was the Governor of California.

Once again you challenge my intelligence and honesty and once again you fail miserably.

I'm just going to address all your post in this one.

I am the Rule of all I survey. See how easy it is to say something. How can anyone prove that I am not. You can't. You can say I'm not but really how do you know that I am not Queen Elizabeth wishing to understand more the common colonist and I perhaps wish to comment on American politics in a way that I cannot in public. You can't.

The same goes for you and your post. You can tell us all these things, you could even post a link to your biography with pictures and reference letters and pictures of the soaps you took while at the White House. All that is still no proof that you are not a dog.

You asked me why pigbodine. I will answer that was my dog's name. But then you will probably ask why did I name my dog Pig Bodine.

In fact, the deeper you delve into biography, the less people will listen to you because what you are is never as important as what you say. People make fun of the biography because you seem to think that is a convincing argument. To posters, it's the biography of a sock puppet. Because we are all sock puppets, I for my dead dog.

As for your guilt by association. Jesus hung out with radicals, rebels, dissidents, prostitutes. Now, before the outrage begins by saying I am not comparing Obama to Jesus. I am just wondering how you define Jesus by his associates. And for that matter, what about McCain hanging out with all those money lenders? And I guess you by association since you are hanging with friends of McCain.

Finally, as for Hagee and Wright. You're definition of evil is subjective. While Farrkahn calls for the destruction of Jews, isn't that Hagee's motive as well? That is how many, many people see it and that his statements are more insidious than Farrakahn's. He claims to be a friend but he will not mourn the loss of those same friends since their destruction is the key to the gates of heaven.

That to me is evil. You can disagree mainly becuase what I am saying does not fit your worldview. And while you can do all the research you want, if how that research is filtered is what makes your world come from knowledge or ignorance.

And just because you do not cosider yourself ignorant does not mean that others reading this post won't. And if that doesn't matter to you, why do you keep defending yourself rather than your thoughts?

I'm not a woman, but I dislike Obama because he's a religious fanatic who admits he lets his faith dictate his political stance on some topics.

I dislike him because he's inexperienced.

I dislike him because all he talks about are dreams and wishes and hopes - but no concrete plans to bring any of those dreams and wishes and hopes to fruition.

I dislike him because he and his supporters have never missed an opportunity to call any of his detractors RACIST - when race has nothing to do with it.

I dislike the way he handed the Rev. Wright matter, and before that, I dislike the way he had a homophobic gospel singer playing a part in his campaign.

I dislike Obama because he appears mealey-mouthed and simpering.

I dislike Obama because I think his wife's a whiny bitch. (If hatred of Bill Clinton is allowable to put down Hillary, Obama's wife is fair game).

I dislike Obama because his supporters are such fanatics and paint his detractors as somehow deficient or diseased because they don't obsequiously fawn over him the way THEY do.

So are those enough reasons to dislike Obama? That we think he's the WRONG choice to lead not only Democrats but the entire country? And THAT is the reason we refused to concede his victory. We think he's the WRONG CHOICE.

And personally, I really don't see how I can vote for someone I distrust, and compared to the alzheimer's patient we have as an alternative - I think the country is headed to hell in a handbasket.

Oh..Ok..yeah you missed the part where no one cares why you don't like Obama. No one said you "can't" or "aren't allowed" to dislike Obama.

You won't vote for him..so our interest in you ceases. We don't hate you..we just don't care.

Have a nice life..seriously..you sound upset, I hope it gets better whatever it is.

I list anything that has relevance to what I’m talking about. If something backs up the experience and understanding that I say I possess then I feel compelled to list it.

I’m not the least bit concerned over whether complete strangers online believe who I say I am. You may feel the need to be a sock puppet, but I do not. If it is relevant I will post it. The fact that I know that it is true is enough for me.

Yeshua hung out with radicals, rebels, dissidents, and prostitutes because he was trying to help them. He didn’t approve of their behavior. I define Yeshua by his teachings, who his friends were, and what they made of themselves after meeting him.

Like everyone, McCain should be judged by whom he chooses to keep as friends as well. The difference between McCain’s friends and Obama’s friends is that his are not overtly racist, subversive, radical, or support Islamic terrorism against the United States while Obama’s are/do.

If you consider me guilty by association for my friendship and my family’s friendship with people like the McCain’s, Reagan’s, Smith’s (Oregon), and others then so be it. I have no problem with that.

Farrakhan has indeed actively called for, supported, and sent funds to help pay for Islamic terrorism against the United States and Israel. In sharp contrast Hagee has never done any of this and never would. He is in fact strongly pro-Israel. People who have misunderstood Hagee’s statements are either unfamiliar with the scriptural context in which they’ve been said, are willfully ignorant, are lying, or they’re just plain stupid. Ignorance breeds misunderstanding and willful ignorance is evil. He has and does mourn the loss of the lives of Americans and allies that are lost.

I disagree with you based on the facts. My view of the world is based on reality. To me an idealized view of the world is pure ignorance. I do not see the world as I would like it to be, but rather as it actually is and how it changes over time. In the end all I really care about are the cold hard facts. I would never dismiss anything simply because it doesn’t fit my ideal. I look at the facts and adapt accordingly as they change. I have little interest in political correctness and I consider the truth far more important than worrying about if it might offend someone.

I have my moments of ignorance just like everyone else, but I do not accept that ignorance, but rather I make a point of learning as much as I can and then adapting as the information available changes, I gain greater understanding, or both. If someone else thinks I’m ignorant and they haven’t taken the time to do the research then their opinion is based on their lack of understanding. That makes it irrelevant.

I defend my thoughts or myself if either is attacked. As I told someone else, if you don’t want to read about my education then don’t attack my intelligence. If you don’t want to read about my accomplishments then don’t attack my experience.

Sorry to hear about your dog.

Cassandra

Cassandra -

you wrote: "I am pro death penalty because if you commit the crime of murder, rape (murder of the spirit), or treason (murder of your responsibility to your country) then you have lost your right to live. Your life no longer has any value and it is the responsibility of the state to take your life from you. If you murder someone, rape someone, or commit treason then you should be executed. Society must hold you responsible for your crime/s."

And you also wrote that nonsense about being "pro responsibility."

I say bullshit, bullshit and bullshit.

Pro life is pro life. Period. Your slippery slope of deciding who "deserves" life is bullshit. BULLSHIT!!!

Life is life.

Conception to natural death.

It is not a natural death if your government kills you. That is more murder. Just adding a little legal construct between the person and his or her murderer.

These slippery slopes are not for the faint of heart.

Your justifications for societal murder are non-persuasive. I am surprised you can write them with a straight face.

It is self-justification and BULLSHIT.

Your friend,

Cindy

C'mon now, don't act like the HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS are stupid. Everything wrong with Obama is his own doing, and people do not hate him, they distrust him. Look at his choice of friends, and mentors, Rev Wright- an anti white, anti-American close friend and mentor for 20 years; look at Bill Avery, a former weatherman who is a terrorist to our country and a friend , and neighbor and sometime attended the same meetings for simlilar causes as Obama.., REZKO, my God, he is a criminal and fundraiser for Obama and friend for 18 years, as well as AUCHI,the Muslim Iraqi Billionaire who supported Obama's campaign with millions given to his fundraiser. His friend and mentor FRANK , metioned many times in his book, who is a MARXIST POET, and of course his own cousing Raila Odinga who is a brutal Communist leader in Africa who is often in touch with cousin Barack Hussein Obama.

If he is so worried about the HOPES FOR HIS DAUGHTERS, why did he stay with the hateful Rev Wright and let his kids grow up listening to that awful rhetoric? CHANGE..he shouts, but he didn't CHANGE churches.

P.S. There is no such thing as a FORMER Clinton Supporter.

I believe the DNC did AMERICA AND AMERICANS a dissservice by manipulating votes etc to make Obama our nominee.

He is not qualified. His wife is not first lady material.

Hillary Clinton was not just a first lady, she was a great first lady. She was low key and made a great difference in our relationship with 80 other countries when visiting them. She has always been a champion for women's rights, children's rights and civil rights. Even before she met Bill she worked hard for the rights of others of all races and gender and nationality. She is a wonderful Senator -read her achievements- they are many. Hillary Clinton is a bright, lovely, well educated, experienced person who would make an outstanding president FOR THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTRY. Americans first, our country first, and she would work hard for all the people of this country....AND OUR VOTES, IF COUNTED WOULD PROVE WE LOVE HER.