enter the fray: our reader discussion forum
Search in:
Advanced
View:FlatThreaded
Page 1 of 3 (31 items)   1 2 3 Next >
Thriving Fear and Sick Hyperbole
by TheBell
+1/-1 Reply

Yesterday, conservatives gathered in the thousands on the steps of the U.S. Capitol for a Tea Party-style protest against the healthcare reform bill currently moving through the House of Representatives. “This bill is the greatest threat to freedom that I have seen,” House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio warned the crowd. Boehner then collapsed and was rushed to a local DC hospital, where he received treatment for what doctors there described as one of the worst cases of hyperbole they had ever seen.

Okay, I made that last part up.

As Boehner exhorted on the protestors, New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristoff took on a criticism of healthcare reform posited by many conservative activists. Namely, that reform is completely unnecessary because healthcare in the U.S., in its current state, is just fine. Proponents often take their assertions a notch higher. Not only is U.S. healthcare better than that in foreign nations featuring socialized medicine, it is paramount.

Republican Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama, sneezing out a strain of calumny nearly as virulent as that of Boehner’s, has said that Obamacare amounts to “the first step in destroying the best healthcare system the world has ever known.”

However, Kristoff demonstrates that U.S. health statistics do not stack up so well against those of other industrialized nations, including the ones with socialized medicine. The only U.S. demographic group consistently getting healthcare equal to or better than their international peers are those over sixty-five years of age – the ones on Medicare, a government-run universal coverage healthcare program.

It is true, Kristoff concedes, that the wait to see some specialists or have certain operations performed is shorter in the U.S. than some foreign countries. Then again, one valid reason for this may be that foreign doctors do not face pressure from private insurance companies to push patients out of hospitals as quickly as possible. Is it better to get the fastest cure possible or the best cure possible? The answer, of course, is that getting both is best. The point remains that what we have today is, at best, a tradeoff and not a triumph over the rest of the planet.

I am not trying to make an argument here that U.S. healthcare system is horrible. In fact, it is effective on many levels. On the other hand, its clear superiority to the rest of the world, much as jingoistic national pride might wish to believe in such, simply does not exist. Even if what we have is good, better is demonstrably possible.

The reason this particular falsehood maintains so much traction, beyond our patriotic bias, must surely derive from poll after poll finding a majority of Americans with health insurance declare themselves satisfied with it and the level/quality of care they receive. Even so, at some level, we realize the need for improvement because the same polls also find a strong if seemingly contradictory desire by Americans for reform.

Why, then, do so many of us insist we are happy with what we already have and regard so skeptically any legislation currently being proposed? A recent Rasmussen survey found that fifty-five percent believe passage of healthcare reform legislation would increase the cost of healthcare and fifty-two percent believe it will reduce quality of care.

I believe the answer lies in the finding that a whopping seventy-two percent of those polled believe it likely companies will drop insurance coverage for employees in reform’s wake.

For many years, American workers in all but the smallest companies received health insurance coverage at their employers’ expense. It was a “benefit” for being a productive citizen of the most powerful nation on Earth at a time of economic largesse. The insurance provided was probably imperfect but with medical costs generally within the means of most middle class families, protection against catastrophic loss from a severe long-term illness was the only worry and this was, or at least appeared, covered.

The only people who did not have health insurance were those who were unemployed or held the lowest-skilled jobs and our culture often viewed either condition as an indictment against the effected individuals for being uneducated and/or unmotivated.

Then, as medical costs began to rise, companies began playing hardball with employee, including those in unions, over healthcare benefits. Either employees must begin contributing part of the expense for their coverage or the company would cut jobs. Loss of a job was a potential threat because few affordable alternatives to employer-based health insurance were rare. In spite of this, despite rising healthcare costs, the economy was growing at an unprecedented clip and unemployment was low, thereby allowing a kind of uneasy equilibrium to prevail.

In recent years, as the economy soured and jobs began vanishing overseas as a result of globalization and other factors, the threat of job loss became long-term and the loss of health insurance with it. Simultaneously, medical costs continued growing to the point that even relatively routine care became ruinous for middle class and even some affluent families.

Employer-based health insurance was more imperfect than ever yet Americans felt pressured to stick with it more than ever because the alternative was almost certain devastation and poverty. Workers also became resistant to any insurance changes, fearing switches by employers to new insurance providers to get better deals. A new provider could mean switching doctors or hospitals and/or introduced the possibility of denials for “pre-existing conditions.”

Even worse, as unemployment soared and the cost of health insurance made it prohibitive in any form to more families, nothing changed in our underlying beliefs regarding them. Being unemployed and uninsured is still something more to be ashamed than outraged over, more a reflection on individual inadequacies than problems or unfairness in the system. In such a situation, it does not take much stoking by those opposed to reform, for various reasons of their own, to generate fear and panic among Americans about potential changes.

If genuine satisfaction on the part of most with the insurance they have today truly were the primary driver behind opposition to healthcare reform legislation, then I would have to agree that President Obama and Democratic Congressional leaders are suffering from mixed-up priorities or worse. However, I believe many Americans are inclined to rate their current coverage as “satisfactory” based not on its merits but due to vague but potent fears regarding its loss.

Part of the reasoning behind universal coverage and a public option is to reduce some of the shortcomings of the current employer-based system. Yet terror of the traditional “no man’s land” that has existed beyond employer coverage for health insurance may well be a major driver behind public opposition to this solution. Boehner can talk all he wants about “threats to freedom” but the current system, intentionally or otherwise, has been all about limiting choices for years.

In light of this, Congressional Democrats more than ever need to place doing the right thing over doing what is popular. Fortunately, for Republicans, fear of losing popularity is a potent weapon against politicians facing re-election bids in 2010. It is certainly more potent than what is apparently their only other weapon in this fight – hyperbole.

Let's Get This Straight
by Urquhart

(rather turgid, even for you; yeesh)

Do you believe that people's fears of losing their current insurance under this plan are ill-founded?

Do you believe coverage will improve under the new plan?

The reason support continues to sink (and by corollary, the reason they tried to sneak it through under cover of darkness in July) is because the claims it makes are plainly implausible. Going around telling people that you'll give better care more cheaply to more people while not limiting their choices and not blowing up the deficit is just silly. It treats voters like idiots, and they resent it. They also correctly assume you're trying to pull a fast one, and certainly hiding something.

Much of the opposition to the healthcare legislation currently expiring in Congress is hyperbole from its salesmen.

Re: Let's Get This Straight
by WasLTT

It treats voters like idiots, and they resent it.

How do you reconcile this statement with the popularity of Fox "News"?

Uhhh
by Urquhart

Because Fox News doesn't treat voters like idiots.

There, conundrum reconciled.

We can't afford it.
by PumpkinSeed

The program is going to cost much more that the proponents are willing to admit. The idea that Congress is going to cut Medicare benefits to pay for the program is ludicrous. There is no way they would not bow to the overwhelming pressure seniors would bring on them to restore any cuts, a threat seniors can back up through their know voting turnout. Also the program starts benefits in 2013 but starts taxing in 2010, which is blatant attempt to mislead people on the true cost of the program. And additionally there is no rational discussion of ending the huge payments made to doctors and hospitals to prolong the life of very old people in their finals days. 

We perhaps could afford the plan if Obama would raise taxes on everyone to pay for it, but this would break one of this main campaign promises. Instead we continue to think we can live extravagantly in the present and foist the cost off on future generations. 

Re: Uhhh
by topazz
Right. Idiots just attract more idiots, but they treat each other like fellow rocket scientists.
I Stand Proudly
by Urquhart

With my fellow morons.

Cause the Prez is so scary-smart he can split atoms with his mind. A towering intellect.

Re: I Stand Proudly
by topazz

Right. And I stand proudly with my fellow Obama-bots. Cause that's what you Fox morons call anyone who disagrees with you.

Sensing an impasse here. Back to bed for me; nursing a hangover.

Re: Thriving Fear and Sick Hyperbole
by JackD
Fortunately for the Congressional Democrats, doing the right thing and the popular thing appear to be the same at least if one believes the polls rather than tea bag demonstrations.
Re: Let's Get This Straight
by anxious_mofo
Going around telling people that you'll give better care more cheaply to more people while not limiting their choices and not blowing up the deficit is just silly. It treats voters like idiots, and they resent it. They also correctly assume you're trying to pull a fast one, and certainly hiding something.
Yes. I would greatly prefer that the Democrats come right out and tell us that they plan on raising taxes and/or the deficit in order to spend loads of money. We know that's what is going to happen. Pretending that their goals can be achieved in a budget-neutral way is insulting to our intelligence.
No Sale
by TheBell

Hi, Urquhart.

Addressing your opening questions --

Yes, I believe their fears are ill-founded.

I believe coverage will be expanded to more people under this round of reform, which is where I believe the emphasis should be. I believe it is entirely possible people who already have coverage will experience changes, some for the good and some for the bad. Turning the bad into good and the good into better will be for the next round of legislation. Hopefully, Republicans will not sit on their hands during that round because they think it is their best chance for regaining control of Congress to show how principled they are.

As for the rest, I think you repeat GOP talking point very well, although rather belligerent, even for you (yeesh!).

Thank you for your reply but no sale.

What This Country Can Afford
by TheBell

Hi, PumpkinSeed. If this country cannot afford to ensure minimum decent healthcare coverage for all of its citizens, then it could not afford fighting two wars halfway around the planet, cutting taxes to the richest of its citizens, or looking the other way until Wall Street got so used to robbing people it finally robbed itself and collapsed the whole boondoggle. Oh, how about that? -- We couldn't afford any of those things as it turned out.

If the President must plunge us all into debt (once again!) or break a campaign promise (once again!), at least let it be for something that will ultimately benefit all of us rather than for things that benefit only a few or none of us.

Thanks for replying.

Sure It Sucks, But
by Urquhart

We'll fix it later. Trust us.

I can see why this argument has been so convincing to people. Certainly a compelling reason for Congresspersons to ignore their constituents.

Bzzt! Bzzt!
by GregorSamsa

It's a lot worse than that.

Assume it's true that extended coverage can be funded by mopping up excess costs in Medicare. Like, I dunno, use recycled paper or dim the office lights or something. Well, these cost savings could have been seized and channeled into tax cuts or deficit reduction, instead of expanding public programs. So even granting the Obama premise, taxes would be higher than what they would have been if the 15% lazy shitheads were not subsidized.

It's a bit like saying, "Honey, I found a $100 bill under the couch, so I went and lost it in tonight's poker game." I doubt honey will be pleased with that.

How can you spot a Republican? When he gets home, see if he enters through the front door or climbs the tree in the yard and tries to let himself in through the bedroom window.

Knowing What's Good For Them v. Getting It
by TheBell
Hi, JackD. Well, as I have noted in several posts now, polls indicate the voters are of two minds on this point. They know what is good for them but, nonetheless, they don't want what they know is good for them imposed on them. Imposing it is a risk for Democrats, depending on how voters ultimately react. Personally, I think if they pass it, the subsequent will be dominated more by stories of sick people getting help who could not perviously qualify for it than it will stories of people who can no longer get help because they lost their coverage. If that is true, I think even Blue Dogs and moderates will be safer than they think, at least on this issue. Thank you for your reply.
Page 1 of 3 (31 items)   1 2 3 Next >
View as RSS news feed in XML