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A new Fray editor?
by Gatewood
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Does that mean that the utterly incompetent Geoff Anderson is FINALLY gone? Have the Slate/Fray technicians had the sense God gave a goose to change the access codes so that our former idiot editor can no longer log in and screw with people for the sheer joy of listening to them howl in outrage?

One can only hope.

So new Fray editor [JTM] what is your game plan? Have you made up your mind yet? Are you also going to be partisan and randomly vicious in the implementation of your policies or are you going to break with a six or seven year tradition of past Fray editors and actually be fair and impartial?

As you can probably guess at this point, a string of incompetent and unqualified editors, selected for anything BUT their ability to do the job properly, has left a bad taste in the mouths of many regulars. It's unfair, but you are going to have to work very hard to establish your credentials and prove to us that you are competent and qualified to hold this position. The last three editors before you thoroughly abused their power and left trashed forums in their wakes. Specifically I am referring to Geoff Anderson, Adam Christian, and Kevin Arnovitz. We had three BAD editors in a row. Here's hoping that you break that cycle and produce where they simply destroyed.

Now I could leave things at that but you deserve to know in what ways they failed. Kevin Arnovitz was a fairly innovative editor and tried many different things to encourage posting but he was terribly inconsistent in his efforts and as often as not followed up a brilliant idea by implementing something so stupid and counter productive that not only did it neutralize the effectiveness of the original idea but turned things from bad to much, much worse.

He eliminated the old star system and then reinstated it based on a popularity system rather than what it was originally intended to be, a methodology for recognizing and rewarding exceptional ability and posting efforts above and beyond the average. After he eliminated it and then re-introduced it based on a poster's popularity alone it -- as ANYONE should have been able to predict -- the star system degenerated into chaos. He then eliminated it for the final time. He even awarded a star designation one time based on the results of a survivor type of contest. The man was an incompetent moron.

On top of that Kevin Arnovitz had a really bad habit of rewarding bad behavior from people that he liked. In other words he blatantly played favorites and did not seem to have any sense of judgment where people were concerned. If Arnovitz liked you then you could do no wrong. If he disliked you then you could do nothing right.

Adam Christian decided that none of the old hand posters were worthy of being featured as excellent posters -- and we are taking about the old group of Star poster here -- and he selected an entire new host of unproven posters to honor and grimly stuck with them even after it became evident that most of them were not up to the task. Aside from that he was essentially a ghost as an editor. Most of us barely recall him as having even been around.

Geoff Anderson was simply a childish person as an editor, combining the worst habits and features of both Kevin Arnovitz and Adam Christian. He randomly banned people and rewarded others for the identical behavior that had gotten people banned in the past. He taunted posters that he did not like and he often made inappropriate comments in his posts to various forums. He was even a worse editor that Kevin Arnovitz and that is saying something.

What does an editor NEED to do? Be fair and honest and DO NOT PLAY FAVORITES. Treat everyone the same. Don't pal around with some posters and then act reserved with others. Just see to it that the boards run smoothly and put some thought into the consequences if you are going to devise some scheme for increasing the quality of over all postings by regulars.

Be aware that even if YOU do not take posting seriously many of the regulars that routinely post do take it seriously and you do not have the right to toy with them. Treat them with respect . . . even the ones that you do not like.

Oh . . . and resist the temptation to toss out the baby with the bath water if you DO come up with some new sort of posting scheme. This is because, in retrospect it probably won't work out to be as brilliant in execution as it seemed to you at the time on the planning board.

I forgot,
by NickD

as a sockpuppet, whose foot do you represent again?

Hopefully if the new editor changes anything it will be to prevent sockpuppets from running amok. You put some some pretty arrogant words there towards the new guy in town. Quite a welcome you put forth, of course by fair and honest you mean allow you really mean that you hope he shows favoritism towards you and your other nicknames while harassing people you disagree with.

If he has enough
by Gatewood

sense to leave me the hell alone I'll be more or less satisfied.

Geoff deliberately screwed with posters for the sheer arrogant joy of doing so. He was a troll in that respect -- much like you in fact, except that he actually had power and once upon a time also had a reputation as a decent poster. So, aside from both of you being pinheads and trolls you actually have very little in common.

As for me as a poster. Not everyone is the same sort of slime ball that you are NickD, and so it's wrong of you to charge them with your personal posting motivations and policies. I use one and only one posting name while posting regularly. The fray/Slate system willing I will be posting as Gatewood for months.

Frankly, if you have a problem with my posting then that's YOUR problem. I seldom heed the whining and sniffles of impotent and inconsequential posters such as yourself.

Have a nice fray!

heh, heh, heh
by NickD

As if this were some sort of little fiefdom for yourself, The rantings of a person such as yourself would be almost laughable save for the fact that the new editor will have use of more than just these pages to see that you indeed are a sockpuppet.

I use only one Nickname to post and that can be checked going back many, many years. As far as being a troll? Your history is out there for 100% of all long time readers to enjoy. Simply follow the converstations of other long time posters and one can discern what is thought of you. There are ideologicaly ridgid posters who have long histories of posting without manipulative games and then there are posters like you.

Its when posters like you have top posts like this basically trying to bully and intimidate a new editor that your sillyness really becomes evident. Look at the subject line in your reply to me basically saying "he better leave you alone if he knows whats good for him". Watcha gonna do there gatewood? Write a another silly post on fraywatch if he doesn't do what you demand? Why he must be trembling in his boots already. heh, heh, heh I mean really, after all you are such a "potent poster".

You wrote: "Geoff deliberately screwed with posters for the sheer arrogant joy of doing so. He was a troll in that respect..."

Why not give a few examples to everyone?

Bwahahahaha!
by Gatewood

You jackass, if a mere regular poster [even one as famous and decorated and honored such as myself] can bully and or intimidate an editor then he or she is not much of an editor and certainly not worth keeping. In addition to that, moron, the editor is the one with the flush and ban powers not the regular poster. Can you wrap your little brain around that fact or have I again gone much too fast for your rate of comprehension?

Bully and intimidate the editor? Bwahahahahaha!

I'm not sure what world you live in NickD but it's certainly not the real world. I wish you the joy of fondling your own private fantasies though. Just keep me out of the disgusting things in the future.

You wrote the the words of your posts.
by NickD

I didn't.

It is good that you finally see the light about the fact that it is the editor that calls the shots and not you.

Please show your decorations and honors please. I think most posters would find them interesting...

Like Andrew Jackson, I could care less if you called me a Jackass. As Stevenson once said the "circus elephant always grasps the tail of his predecessor". or something similar to that effect. In otherwords "you must be lead by the nose".

As I wrote, keep your revolting
by Gatewood
fantasies about me to yourself. I understand that you currently worship the monitor screen that I post on but please stop slobbering all over me.
Whatever...
by NickD
phfffbbbt
WTF
by Thomas Paine

...one as famous and decorated and honored such as myself....

Jezuz H, you are full of yourself! I guess I missed out on what you may have done in the distant past to earn that star of which you are so proud, but you sure as all Hell have not done anything here in the past couple of years to earn any honors.

Pssst . . . it's called an
by Gatewood

example of sarcasm Thomas Paine; not to be taken literally.

Seriously, some of you either need to get a humor infusion or attend a night school adult reading comprehension class. That would be worth the investment in time and money in my estimation. This sour bit of jealously and outrage evinced by you BOTF regulars over my return to posting is touching and heartwarming as a welcome but it does make most of you look like obsessive compulsive putzes as you trail over from BOTF just to piddle all over my top post.

You people DO realize that you are leaving a permanent record of your posting activities behind whenever you do this, right? Any neutral outside reader can open these and see how certain of you have made it your mission in life to follow me around just to spit on me. It really does not make any of you look like good Fray citizens.

"I am not a republican,but I play one while posting."
by BFD

"Be aware that even if YOU do not take posting seriously many of the regulars that routinely post do take it seriously and you do not have the right to toy with them. Treat them with respect . . . even the ones that you do not like."?

Stalking me and attacking me
by Gatewood

is not representational of good Fray citizenship BFD and you should probably cease doing this, don't you think?

I frequently tell obnoxious posters that degenerate into stalking me and attacking me for the nature of my politics or ideology -- as you are doing -- that I am neither a conservative nor a liberal. Just like you are won't to do, however, they discount this and shriek to the heavens that I am a dirty filthy [fill in the blank] simply because I have argued for a particular position for a while. I think these people are quite limited in intelligence or at least in perception. What do you think?

Anyway in a act of self-deprecation I wrote the above segment that you just quoted as a bit of a humorous opening to a relatively serious thread because that particular individual and I had argued the notion of ideological identity back and forth in a previous thread. Now, considering that you are a stalker BFD . . . as amply demonstrated in this thread and the top post immediately above this one . . . you should have been able to pick up on both the reality and the humor there. Perhaps you are even more limited in intellect than I had recently begun to suspect. If so, then you have my sympathy.

In any event, as I generally point out to you in these courteous replies of mine, you are making yourself look rather bad in the eyes of any interested party opening up these replies for a look see. You should probably consider taking up a different posting hobby.

What do I think? I think you're a phony and don't like
by BFD
being busted on it.
Isn't it curious that
by Gatewood

I tell people openly that I'm neither a republican nor a democrat, conservative nor liberal and you call me a phony. You track me down to launch that personal attack against me, as a matter of fact. I can prove that I use only one posting nic for however long I post for an extensive amount of time and yet you not only claim that I don't but you work very hard to spread the rumor that I simultaneously post under many nics.

A canard that the Fray editor could refute in a hearbeat simply by taking a look see. Hasn't it occurred to you that Kevin Arnovitz and Geoff Anderson were not precisely sympatico with me and yet neither ever flushed my posts or banned me. Were they intimidated by me? Hardly. Neither hesitated to flush or ban trouble makers. The fact is that based on hysterical assertions by FORMERLY reputable posters like you they each investigated and came to the startling conclusion that I was not guilty. Amazing, eh? Do you honestly BELIEVE that you know something about me as a poster that neither of them were blind to?

Were you not a hopeless fanatic on these points you would begin to question yourself at this point. Oh . . . and ditto with page pushing and other charges you have leveled against me in your jealousy or outright hatred.

I suspect that what it all boils down to is that you have never vaguely approached my writing skills or fame or [depending on the prejudicial source] infamy on these fray boards that I achieve with casual ease and you are just raw, blind, soul gnawing jealous.

Well, whatever twisted motivations rule you BFD, the fact remains that you are still making yourself look very bad in these exchanges. All my replies to your uncalled for public attacks have been calm and civilized in nature. So, tell me, what will it take for you to work the bile of uncalled for and unreasoning hatred out of your system? Seriously, do you intend to run these threads out indefinitely? Wouldn't you rather go see a psychiatrist?

Yes a permenant record for you as well.
by NickD

Do you think you are the only poster who frequently reads what is on this board?

Once again you are trying to play victim while achieving the exact responses you have hoped to receive. It is truely amazing of your adamant refusal to accept the fact that others have seen through your childishness a easily and rapidly as they have. No one here is spitting on you or biting your ankles as you like to say, thinking you are cleverly elevating yourself, we are simply pointing out your ridiculous behaviour to you.

Now, go top post a real top post that does not simply whine about your being a victim, brag about who you think you are, or flame bait others into sarcastic replies. Write something on a subject worthy of coherent response and then we'll see if yourself pittying claims are true. So far there is nothing to look at to judge otherwise.

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